[Farmall] [AT] A Few Questions now Farmall Exhaust Lifts

Ben Wagner supera1948 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 6 10:59:51 PDT 2011 

Some parts will be worth significantly more than others.  I know, because I
tried to find a few parts for my project and came up empty handed.  I could
find the leather seal (Case Original Parts) and the gaskets, but nothing
else except at salvage yards.  Some parts I had to make.

Ben Wagner


On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Paul Bazzetta <bazzetta at execpc.com> wrote:

> I have some old exhaust lift parts in storage. a cylinder or two and some
> pulleys and maybe a box of old valves and pull knobs.  All well used.  I
> have no idea what they are worth. If anyone is interested in them, drop me a
> line and I'd be willing to go take photos and exchange info.
>
> Paul
> bazzetta at execpc(dot)com
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
>
> > Thanks!  The manual is for exactly the same model I've got.
> >
> > Here's another link to what looks like the same manual from another
> website
> > in PDF:
> >
> >
> http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1917631/pneumatic-lift-all-pdf-may-18-2010-4-33-am-605k?da=y
> >
> > From: http://farmall.winnfreenet.com/downloads.php
> >
> > Ben Wagner
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, E. John Puckett
> > <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I do not own anything with an exhaust lift, but here is a link to a
> >> manual for one.  It may not be the same model you have though.
> >> http://home.centurytel.net/ejpuckett/exhaust%20lift/
> >>
> >> On 7/6/2011 7:49 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
> >>> You are probably right; the Stanley may not be original.  I have heard
> >>> somewhere along the way that Stanley made IH Mufflers, but I can't find
> >>> where.  I've got the book here that claims Hayes or Mackensie made the
> >> Super
> >>> Series mufflers, but it doesn't mention what the Letter Series used.  I
> >>> would think the original muffler would be on this tractor, since the
> >> tractor
> >>> is original in all parts; I also think the original owner purchased the
> >>> muffler option with the tractor, since he could spend the money for an
> >>> exhaust lift.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how many of those "Lift All" exhaust lifts for the
> >> Farmall
> >>> B and A were made?  How many exist in working condition today?  Speak
> up
> >> if
> >>> you have one; I'd enjoy hearing from other owners.
> >>>
> >>> Ben Wagner
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Darrell Ratliff<
> dbigdog at columbus.rr.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The Stanley is likely not an original muffler.  It would have had an
> IH
> >>>> embossed on it somewhere.  Seeing no baffles is normal.  Most tractor
> >>>> mufflers don't have them.
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Ben Wagner
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:57 PM
> >>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AT] A Few Questions: Mufflers
> >>>>
> >>>> I took the muffler off to take a look, and I can shine a light in at
> one
> >>>> end.  Looking in from the other end, I see no baffles.  I take it this
> >>>> muffler is the equivalent of straight pipe exhaust!  This old muffler
> >> was
> >>>> made presumably with the tractor, since it is a Stanley.
> >>>>
> >>>> I look up in the muffler, and I see little fingers about 1/2 inch long
> >> all
> >>>> the way up.  Is this the way the Stanley mufflers were made, without
> >>>> baffles?
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben Wagner
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mike Sloane<mikesloane at verizon.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't know much about Farmall A tractors, but there are muffler,
> and
> >>>>> there are mufflers - some of the ones sold today are nothing but tin
> >>>>> cans with pipes on both ends, while others have proper baffles that
> (if
> >>>>> correctly arranged) do a pretty good job of quieting engine sound. If
> >>>>> you have an OEM muffler that sounds loud, it may be that the baffles
> >>>>> have simply eroded to nothing over the last 65 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As far as the surging, that suggests attention needs to be paid to
> the
> >>>>> governor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the clutch adjustment and other similar issues, I always
> recommend
> >>>>> that you go to Binder Books<www.binderbooks.com>  and obtain a
> service
> >>>>> manual for the tractor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/5/2011 9:52 AM, Ben Wagner wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've got a few questions concerning my 1945 Farmall A.  I just
> started
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>> up
> >>>>>> for the first time in four months yesterday after a paint job.  I'll
> >>>>> number
> >>>>>> the questions so that they are easier to reference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1.  The tractor runs fabulously.  It starts right up, even after
> >>>> sitting
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> four months, and is the most dependable engine I could want in an
> old
> >>>>>> tractor.  My only objection is that the engine surges whenever I
> >> adjust
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> throttle, unless I slowly creep the throttle up or down.  The
> surging
> >>>>> stops
> >>>>>> if I slow the engine down.  My other tractor, the 1948 Super A, will
> >>>>>> also
> >>>>>> surge but only when the choke is not adjusted at exactly 1/2 choke.
> >>>>  The
> >>>>>> 1945 A will not run well unless the choke is completely open.
>  Because
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> engine on the 1945 A runs so well, I hesitate to do any adjustments
> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> carb.  Does anyone have any advice?  I can live with the surging,
> even
> >>>>>> though it is a little irritating, but I would like to be able to
> >>>> advance
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> throttle without the concern of the surging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2.  I used the tractor this winter before a paint job for snow
> >> removal.
> >>>>>  I
> >>>>>> remember thinking that the engine sounded incredibly loud.
>  Yesterday,
> >>>> I
> >>>>> had
> >>>>>> both tractors out, and the 1945 engine sounds much louder than the
> >> 1948
> >>>>>> Super A.  I'm wondering if the muffler is working, since the muffler
> >> is
> >>>>>> original "Stanley" vintage.  Is there any way to clean the soot out
> of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> muffler, without taking it to a muffler shop?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the other hand, if the muffler is fine, which is something I may
> >>>> test
> >>>>>> soon with my other tractor, what would make the engine sound like a
> >> two
> >>>>>> cylinder?  It has a distinctive "putt-putt" versus the smoothness of
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> Super A, although the Super A is not as good an engine.  Like I
> >>>>> mentioned, I
> >>>>>> really don't want to mess with the engine since it runs so well.
>  I'm
> >>>>>> halfway wondering if the modern ethanol gasoline is part of the
> >>>> problem!
> >>>>>> But then again, the muffler could not be working, causing me to hear
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> pure engine firing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3.  This question is for anyone who has adjusted, or knows how to
> >>>>>> adjust,
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> Farmall A, B, or C series clutch.  The clutch only begins grabbing
> >> when
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> pedal is about 1/2 to 1 inch from being completely up.  There is no
> >>>>>> freeplay.  How can I adjust the clutch to give me a little freeplay
> >> and
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> longer engagement travel?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ben Wagner
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