[AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld Threseher'sReunion

Sun Jul 3 08:33:40 PDT 2011

there is a difference between the deep rippers (they bring up huge rock in my area) that require a loader to move.  They are excellent for vertical tillage and used in the fall to allow water and freezing to work thru the winter.  The Strip till units are much smaller and a max of about 8 inches deep and will prep the soil (warm it) so that the corn or beans can compete more like regular tilled ground.  The local coop started with one 12 row unit and now has at least 6 units.  The results are good, except with custom u wait.  300 hp is a on the low end of the power train and extreme weight is required to keep the front ends on the ground in this area.  (yes, i have watched the anh. wagons roll)!
 > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 06:49:15 -0400
> From: farmallsupera at earthlink.net
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld Threseher'sReunion
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> Most rigs are 4-6 row here.  Some plant and strip till at the same time but most do the strips and then come back to plant.  Not much anhydrous used around these parts.  Most are probably pulled with a 150-200 hp tractor.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike 1countryguy <mdo_1 at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Jul 2, 2011 5:52 AM
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> >Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld Threseher'sReunion
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> >Strip til units (12-30 ") rows require 300 plus hp and also inject the anhy. .........no way can u pull a planter .  The tractor and mounted unit are in excess of 30-35,000 lbs.   We have used these for the 7th yr.  You have to figure about 20-25 $/acre plus the fertilizer.
> > > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 23:56:41 -0400
> >> From: farmallsupera at earthlink.net
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> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County	Indiana	tractorshow/DentonSEOld	Threseher'sReunion
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> >> I would love to try strip till, I think it would work well in our soils and it combines the best parts of conventional tillage and no-till. We would have to get a much bigger tractor though.
> >> 
> >> I have seen some corn this spring planted in fields that have been continuous no-till for several years, and it really looked bad.  I don't think the roots can penetrate that sand.  I bet it would look better if it had been strip tilled first.
> >> 
> >> Al
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: john hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
> >> >Sent: Jul 1, 2011 9:41 PM
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> >> >Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana	tractorshow/DentonSEOld	Threseher'sReunion
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> >> >Never seen any like that. It sounds like you are talking about "strip-till" 
> >> >farming. Basically you have a trash moving coulter to move the residue, then 
> >> >a small ripper, followed by a planter unit. I would think it is pretty good 
> >> >on corn or beans planted in wide rows (everything here is narrow row--8") 
> >> >Other than tobacco, literally everything here is no-till. It is surprising 
> >> >how hard those drills pull when fully loaded and you hit some soft ground or 
> >> >head up a hill.
> >> >
> >> >John
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >> >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 7:43 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld 
> >> >Threseher'sReunion
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks  John,    at least I remembered part of it correctly.  grins.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone up your way use the rigs with big rippers that run ahead of 
> >> >> the
> >> >> planters to open a "trench" in the no till ground?
> >> >> I see a few of those rigs down here on big farms.  Takes a lot of 
> >> >> horsepower
> >> >> but it's pretty much a one pass operation with ripping, planting and
> >> >> spraying all done at once.
> >> >>
> >> >> Charlie
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> >> From: john hall
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:36 PM
> >> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld 
> >> >> Threseher's
> >> >> Reunion
> >> >>
> >> >> Charlie, today was the cut off for planting beans and getting full 
> >> >> coverage
> >> >> in my area. We can still plant for 2 more weeks, but there is a reduction 
> >> >> in
> >> >> coverage that increases daily past June 30th. We got 2 inches of rain on
> >> >> Tues so we started drilling Wed. night. Last week I hired a guy to come
> >> >> drill my beans with a big Deere no-till. He tried 2 different fields and 
> >> >> it
> >> >> wouldn't go in the ground. He left here and went 2 miles down the road to
> >> >> another farm and wound up parking it. There was moisture in the ground but
> >> >> the land was too hard to penetrate. With the rain my Tye drill has done a
> >> >> decent job. The worst part is trying to get through all the residue. I've
> >> >> got more weight piled on it than the manufacturer ever intended.
> >> >>
> >> >> John  Hall
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:38 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractor show/DentonSEOld
> >> >> Threseher's Reunion
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm testing my memory here but isn't the planting date for Soybeans
> >> >>> already
> >> >>> past?   You can still plant them but unless they extend the deadline can
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> insure the crop?    I hear some guys are thinking about planting Milo
> >> >>> (grain
> >> >>> sorghum) instead.   I don't know if that would work or not.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Charlie
> >> >>>
> >> >>
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