[AT] Johnson CountyIndiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld Threseher'sReunion

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Jul 1 21:09:37 PDT 2011


Al,  I wish I had gotten a better look at one of those rigs.  I've seen them 
as I was driving along the highway.  As I said before it appears to have 
rather big rippers up front to cut a root channel in the hardpan.  I don't 
know how much HP one of those big articulated Case-IH tractors have but I'd 
bet it's close to 200.   I don't know, maybe more.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:56 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson CountyIndiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld 
Threseher'sReunion

I would love to try strip till, I think it would work well in our soils and 
it combines the best parts of conventional tillage and no-till. We would 
have to get a much bigger tractor though.

I have seen some corn this spring planted in fields that have been 
continuous no-till for several years, and it really looked bad.  I don't 
think the roots can penetrate that sand.  I bet it would look better if it 
had been strip tilled first.

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: john hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2011 9:41 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld 
>Threseher'sReunion
>
>Never seen any like that. It sounds like you are talking about "strip-till"
>farming. Basically you have a trash moving coulter to move the residue, 
>then
>a small ripper, followed by a planter unit. I would think it is pretty good
>on corn or beans planted in wide rows (everything here is narrow row--8")
>Other than tobacco, literally everything here is no-till. It is surprising
>how hard those drills pull when fully loaded and you hit some soft ground 
>or
>head up a hill.
>
>John
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 7:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld
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>
>> Thanks  John,    at least I remembered part of it correctly.  grins.
>>
>> Does anyone up your way use the rigs with big rippers that run ahead of
>> the
>> planters to open a "trench" in the no till ground?
>> I see a few of those rigs down here on big farms.  Takes a lot of
>> horsepower
>> but it's pretty much a one pass operation with ripping, planting and
>> spraying all done at once.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: john hall
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:36 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractorshow/DentonSEOld
>> Threseher's
>> Reunion
>>
>> Charlie, today was the cut off for planting beans and getting full
>> coverage
>> in my area. We can still plant for 2 more weeks, but there is a reduction
>> in
>> coverage that increases daily past June 30th. We got 2 inches of rain on
>> Tues so we started drilling Wed. night. Last week I hired a guy to come
>> drill my beans with a big Deere no-till. He tried 2 different fields and
>> it
>> wouldn't go in the ground. He left here and went 2 miles down the road to
>> another farm and wound up parking it. There was moisture in the ground 
>> but
>> the land was too hard to penetrate. With the rain my Tye drill has done a
>> decent job. The worst part is trying to get through all the residue. I've
>> got more weight piled on it than the manufacturer ever intended.
>>
>> John  Hall
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Johnson County Indiana tractor show/DentonSEOld
>> Threseher's Reunion
>>
>>
>>>.
>>>
>>> I'm testing my memory here but isn't the planting date for Soybeans
>>> already
>>> past?   You can still plant them but unless they extend the deadline can
>>> you
>>> insure the crop?    I hear some guys are thinking about planting Milo
>>> (grain
>>> sorghum) instead.   I don't know if that would work or not.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
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