[AT] Technology Creep/ now cold starting

[Cecil Bearden]

I have 2 semi trucks an 83 & an 84 model, each with about 260,000 actual 
miles, and they were well maintained, sothe engines are in good condition. 
They each have 3406 caterpillars.  I styarted one last week with no 
assistance at 18 degrees and it had been sitting for a week.  It smoked 
blue-white for at least 20 minutes.  It runs fine when it warms up.  It also 
has 3 ea group 31 12v batteries.  I have converted all my 2ea 6v battery 
systems to group 31   12v batteries.  I quit having starting problems when I 
got rid of those 6v batteries.  OK is not near as cold as a lot of you other 
guys' areas, but we do not use light weight oil or multi grade oil either. 
The Belarus started yesterday on the coldest day of the winter so far with 
no problems.  However it is 24v start and 12v run.  All of them started with 
no starting fluid......   Good batteries is the best insurance for starting 
in the cold......

Cecil in OKla

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mpnc282 at juno.com>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Technology Creep/ now cold starting


> That's what I have Ralph, the blueish white smoke, maybe my injection pump 
> needs to be timed better. Another factor I wonder about is the tractor 
> never gets worked hard. I use it to scrape the driveway, move firewood 
> around etc. Maybe it needs to be run hard for a while. Mike M
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Technology Creep/ now cold starting
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:11:04 -0600
>
> On 1/18/2011 5:22 PM, mpnc282 at juno.com wrote:
>> Ralph, your Massey starts a little easier than mine. A few weeks ago I 
>> asked the question, how long should I plug my MF 255 in before trying to 
>> start it. I finally was able to try out the advice I received. First, I 
>> plugged in the block heater for about an hour and a half, and when I 
>> turned the key it just rolled over slowly and didn't even try to start. 
>> Then I hooked up my 55 amp charger to it, so it would spin a little 
>> faster, still nothing. Finally, I took my kerosene torpedo heater and had 
>> the hot air blow underneath the engine, and went in for lunch. Thirty 
>> minutes later I tried it again, and this time it fired right up. It 
>> filled the whole shop with diesel smoke, probably still smells in there. 
>> Mike
> Mike, with no exaggeration this Massey starts quicker in the winter than
> it does in summer...........as long as the block heater is plugged in. A
> couple of hours will have the heat gauge moving and the engine warm to
> the touch. Its 1500 watts. A smaller heater will take a lot longer to
> warm up the engine.
> Surprising really as it only has about half the cranking power it was
> designed for. A single 12 volt battery instead of the two sixes it was
> designed to have.
> Injection pump timing and the condition of the injectors can have a big
> effect on starting too. Some diesels put out huge volumes of blueish
> white smoke on a cold start. This one does not so I'm assuming all is
> well with the fuel injection system.
>
> Ralph in Sask
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat!
> http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
>
>
>
> =======
> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.
> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16530)
> http://www.pctools.com/
> ======= 





=======
Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.
(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16530)
http://www.pctools.com/
=======