[AT] Yellow Farmall now cold starting

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Rupert, is this the charger that you are using? You leave it on all the time, correct? Thanks, Mike M   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Battery-Tender-Jr-Junior-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b7afa6ffQQitemZ170585466623QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts   ---------- Original Message ----------
From: Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Yellow Farmall now cold starting
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 20:47:28 -0700

Hello Ralph,
 Have you ever tried pouring 90wt oil when it's -20 or colder? I have. 
You need a knife to cut it. Reminds me of a time when I had to retrieve 
an aircraft that had sprung a bad oil leak in the propeller. I went in 
the next day after the aircraft ( a beaver for those that know aircraft) 
had sat overnight on a frozen lake in -30 temps. The wind chill was much 
cooler. The oil that engine uses is SAE50. This was the first time I had 
experienced this problem.We had the proper wrenches with us but know one 
told us that we would have to deal with frozen oil. The oil seal that 
keeps the oil in the actuating cylinder had sprung a leak so the oil got 
between the splined crankshaft and the propeller hub. No amount of 
puling or pushing with the tools we had with us or could fashion with 
materials at hand would budge the propeller. It took over 3 hours using 
a blow pot and a tent to get the propeller off so we could change the seal.

 I used to do like your doing with the battery charger- putting the 
charger on for awhile when I put the tractor away to make sure the 
battery was charged. Then, 2-3 weeks later if I haven't used the tractor 
I would put the charger on for a couple of hours. AMA sent me a flyer 
advertising a battery minder such as 
<http://batterytender.com/automotive/battery-tender-junior-12v-at-0-75a.html>? 
I have 3 on test this winter. AMA's price is better but you have to be a 
member. This is the first time I've tried them and results are promising 
so far. One is on my tractor. The other two are on my motorhome. All 
three batteries test full charge. The tractor (a Farmall 656) turns over 
like the battery is strong.

Rupert


On 12/31/2010 7:01 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> On 12/31/2010 7:39 PM, Rupert wrote:
>> 	Something else to think about. Many of the newer tractors that used 90
>> wt gear oil have a live power take offs. The Cockshutt 30 and 40 and
>> 1850 are among that group. The cold gear oil in the PTO can make it very
>> difficult to turn the engine over. We warmed the gear case with a fire
>> pot on the 30 and 40 as we didn't have electricity at the time. The 1850
>> had block heaters since we had power when we got the tractor. 3 hours of
>> run time on the block heater with the tractor outside was lots to start
>> it if the batteries were good.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
> You are correct Rupert, that 85-90 gear oil in the Cockshutt 40 sure
> does drag. Its even hard to move the gear shifter when I first start it
> up this weather. My Dad used to remove the pto unit (simple operation on
> those Cockshutts) to facilitate winter cranking back in the days when he
> had to keep the school bus route open for us kids. He had no pto work
> for it in the winter time so it was no problem. For me it would not be
> feasible running the pto driven snowblower.
> That reminds me, forgot to check the battery and charger that I plugged
> in over 24 hours ago on the 40. Guess I'll have to head out in the dark
> at -15F now  to check it. :-(
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>
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