[AT] Grain Augers

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Dec 31 20:10:14 PST 2011


Trust me Al,  all you really missed are the memories and I can sum them up 
for you.  Wet and sticky,  wet and cold early in the morning,  hot and 
sticky by noon.  Eating breakfast at 5 am with sand in your eyes, ears and 
hair from taking out a barn of dried tobacco at 4 am.  Oh did I forget to 
mention the rash on your skin from tobacco juice from the wet leaves.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:13 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers

Charlie, that would be awesome to see.  Folks that know me know I am a 
little odd.  Part of that I attribute to the fact that I grew up in eastern 
NC and never worked the first day in tobacco.  Ever.  I missed out on a lot 
of this first-hand and I feel like I REALLY missed out.  I was stuck working 
on our pasture hog farm, hating about 90% of it.   My family got out of 
tobacco before I was born.  Yes tobacco is hard, nay grueling work, but at 
the end of the day you can look back and see what you've done.

Al


-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 31, 2011 4:21 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>
>Oh yeah I forgot Powell but I think they are an eastern NC outfit too 
>aren't
>they?   I believe there was an attempt to retrofit stick barns but I don't
>think it was very successful.   It would great if someone would take an old
>tobacco warehouse and as much of the old tobacco equipment as they can find
>in it for a museum.    Everything from graded sticks, grading benches and
>old 4 wheel tobacco trucks all the way up to bulk barns including a mock up
>of a warehouse floor with a video and audio of an auction.   I had the
>pleasure of knowing several tobacco auctioneers including two who at one
>time held the world champion tobacco auctioneer title.  Another thing for
>the museum would be some restored Cadillac and Chrysler Imperial limos like
>the buyers used to be chauffeured to the market in.  Of course it would 
>need
>a few 2 ton trucks and a variety of restored old cars and  pickups like the
>farmers drove to the sale.  All of it parked inside the warehouse just like
>back in the day.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Al Jones
>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:25 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>
>Powell is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.  Seems like 
>in
>our neighborhood most barns were either Roanoke or Long.
>
>Wasn't there a burner/flue system you could put in the old stick barns made
>by Vann, as well as Silent Flame and probably others?
>
>It is a shame somebody didn't think to save some of that stuff too.....
>
>Al
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Dec 31, 2011 9:30 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>>
>>Al,  If you think about it, most of the bulk barns were manufactured in 
>>our
>>general area.  Or at least most  of the ones that we are familiar with,
>>Long, Roanoke and Taylor.   I don't know,  maybe bulk tobacco barns are a
>>regional thing and there were other manufacturers in SC, GA and VA but 
>>none
>>that I ever saw.  Can you think of any other bulk barn brands?  Bulk-tobac
>>comes to mind but I don't know where they were built or if that was a 
>>brand
>>name of one of the companies I mentioned.
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: Al Jones
>>Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:06 PM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>>
>>Totally forgot the bulk barns!  Yes, there were oodles of them too around
>>here.  Never really heard anything much bad about them.  Didn't they sell
>>them up until fairly recently?  A "BTO" had a yard full of newer barns
>>before he quit tobacco and I just about believe they were Long.
>>
>>Haven't I read somewhere that Silent Flame was purchased by Long?  Long 
>>had
>>a series of tobacco harvesters, I want to say 70's vintage, that looked a
>>lot like the old Silent Flame harvester with the chain-driven front wheel
>>and the tiers/loopers working on the "top story."
>>
>>For me the ultimate for my collection would be an original Silent Flame
>>tobacco harvester but I am afraid they have all gone to the big scrapyard
>>in
>>the sky by now.
>>
>>Al
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: john hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>>>Sent: Dec 30, 2011 8:24 PM
>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>>>
>>>Al, I am surprise you haven't mentioned bulk barns. They sold quite a few
>>>up
>>>this way in the early '70's. We had a farmer/dealer about 3 miles from
>>>here.
>>>He sold quite a few of those barns in this area. He sold some tractors as
>>>well, don't know how many though. I imagine all those barns have worn out
>>>by
>>>now. We put in new burners in ours about '87. I think there are a few not
>>>far from me that were retro-fitted with the mandated improved heat
>>>exchanger, but that guy has since given up tobacco farming.
>>>
>>>John Hall
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:34 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Grain Augers
>>>
>>>
>>>> That Long was a nightmare.  They sold a lot of bins, and grain 
>>>> equipment
>>>> but a lot of it wasn't very good.  Starting at the ground, where you
>>>> would
>>>> dump into the auger, you had about a 7' section, which ran up to a big
>>>> "box" about 10" wide and 1' deep.  Out of this came the rest of the
>>>> auger.
>>>> THat meant you had the gearbox run by the tractor PTO, which drove the
>>>> upper (long) section of the auger, plus two sets of sprockets, two
>>>> chains,
>>>> and a drive shaft to run the bottom section.  In general even now it
>>>> seems
>>>> like most grain equipment is "just barely enough" in terms of design 
>>>> and
>>>> construction.  Dad has a bin and unloader now that is about 4-5 years
>>>> old,
>>>> and to tell the truth, it is not great.....something has gone wrong 
>>>> with
>>>> the gate on the center well so now it is wide open and I can't close 
>>>> it.
>>>> So you have to turn the auger on and off every few seconds so I don't
>>>> overflow the little portable auger that carries the corn from the
>>>> unloader
>>>> head to the grinder mixer.  It'll!
>>>>  be summer (hottest time of the year!) before we will get enough corn
>>>> out
>>>> so we can access the well and see what is wrong.  I guess the engineers
>>>> that design grain equipment are the ones that graduated at the bottom 
>>>> of
>>>> their class.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>
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