[AT] FW: Gravely 816

Wed Dec 14 04:57:07 PST 2011

Gravely only used the planetary on the 400 series riders and the walk behinds.  The 800 and newer series used an completely different transmission that used external clutches.  

> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:02:26 -0500
> From: rlgoss at insightbb.com
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> 
> Gravely used a planetary gear train with cone clutches, so the large lever really DOES make it go instantly forward or back. When it's adjusted correctly, there is an "over-center" position for both forward and reverse gears so it snaps in position for long-term running. The weak link on the system for the old tractors was the cone clutches. They were always breaking. But I don't have any recollection of problems with the riders.
> 
> Larry
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Vorwerk" <pvorwerk at newulmtel.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:41:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> 
> I understand the forward/reverse is a tall lever on the right, but what do
> you mean by instant forward/reverse? You would still need to apply the
> brake/clutch to change direction, but I imagine it helps when you can leave
> it in the same drive gear and just reach for the tall lever each time.
> 
> I hadn't considered the fact that the engine is in the rear would help
> lighten the steering - makes sense.
> 
> The cab is a nice idea. Getting the natural heat would make it simpler to
> install/remove the cab when you're not messing with coolant lines for the
> heat.
> 
> I appreciate the info.
> 
> Phil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gerhardt
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:09 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> 
> 
> With the eight speeds I never had a problem. The instant forward reverse is
> an added bonus. The blower is quit heavy but never really had a problem.
> With the engine in the rear and the 200 lbs. I hang on the rear it kind of
> compensates for the weight of the blower. If you do use it for cutting
> grass the tractor almost feels like it has power steering because of the
> lightness of the front end.
> 
> Oh and cabs for the tractor come up for sale every now and then. The people
> who have say the stay nice in warm from the heat of the engine under the
> seat pan.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> > From: pvorwerk at newulmtel.net
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:20:11 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> > 
> > How do you like running the blower on a gear drive tractor rather than a
> > hydro-stat? I imagine you can just set it in one of the lower gears and
> > plod along. I got rid of a Cub Cadet because it was too hard to steer;
> > that's when I picked up a second JD 425. How is the steering effort with
> > the blower attached?
> > 
> > This one is nicely restored - in talking to the seller he said that he is
> > the second owner, and he had bought it from an older gentleman that was
> kind
> > of passionate about the machine. When the PO rebuilt the engine he took
> the
> > rest of the tractor and the mower deck to a body shop to get repainted.
> All
> > of the implements look quite clean except for the front mount brush blade,
> > which is showing some weathering.
> > 
> > If it is easy enough to maneuver it would make sense to buy it just for
> snow
> > removal and maybe some brush clearing, and never worry about using it for
> > mowing - I can buy the whole setup for less than a blower for a 425. I'm
> > just trying to figure out how user friendly it is in the snow - I'm
> getting
> > wimpier as time goes by.
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gerhardt
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:03 PM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have a newer version of that tractor and I don't find changing the
> > implements that hard. I can take off the mowing deck and put the
> snowblower
> > on in under 15 minutes. Having the implements run via a shaft vs. belts
> > makes it a lot easier to change them. For using the other front mount
> > attachments that were originally intended to use on Gravely's two when
> > tractors require the use of four bolts to connect them to the adapter.
> > Installing the rear pto for the tiller can be a pain and you can't leave
> it
> > in place when using the other pto.
> > 
> > The Onan motor is a real work horse and people who have them seem to love
> > them. 
> > 
> > I have the same snowblower for my tractor and have never had it clog. The
> > discharge chute is huge and in the Gravely world it is known as the snow
> > cannon. There is a yhoo group for Gravely tractors and an excellent with
> > manuals, parts list and sales flyers at: www.oldgravelys.net/docs
> > 
> > Parts a readily available and can be purchased from dealers or online.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:08:59 -0500
> > > From: swilliams268 at frontier.com
> > > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Gravely 816
> > > 
> > > Phil Vorwerk wrote:
> > > > Did it again; I'm trying one last time, then I'll be quiet.
> > > > 
> > > > Phil
> > > 
> > > Phil,
> > > It looks fine here. Maybe just your view settings are causing a problem?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I looked at the 816 info that I could see online.
> > > 
> > > It looks like changing implements isn't real fun. At least the stuff I 
> > > read seemed to indicate that some of them are a real PIA due to the PTO 
> > > arrangement. However it may do what you want it to do.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Steve W.
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