[AT] OT, Reverse Camera

Sat Dec 31 19:37:10 PST 2011

Dick I realized after I wrote that you mentioned it being a Nav' in the 
first post.  I guess the wiring on them is similar to the Expeditions but I 
don't know a thing about them other than it should have a towing harness 
connector in the back somewhere as someone else mentioned.   I know what you 
mean about getting under a dash.  My spine is still in fairly good shape but 
until they make zoom lens glasses I can't do a thing under the dash and if I 
tried I'd have to pull the front seat first.   If you can find a kid about 
23 years old that works in a car audio place he can put it in before you can 
spell cat.
The problem is finding one you trust.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dick Day
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:06 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera

Hey guys, I really appreciate the help!

This is going in my wife's 2003 Lincoln Navigator.  Once that is done, I'll
do our 2007 Navigator.

Again, anything I can do to shorten my time under the dash would be
appreciated.  I enjoy doing this sort of thing but arthritis in the spine
has taken its toll :)

Dick

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From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:02 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera

> Dick,  what brand, model and year car/truck are you putting it on.  That
> might help.  Someone might know the specifics.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Alan Nadeau
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:59 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, Reverse Camera
>
> Dick,
>
> You're overlooking something.  The reverse lights are at the back of the
> car
> but they have to get switched somewhere that is convenient.  At one time
> the
> RL switch was on the transmission.  Now it is probably somewhere on the
> steering column under the dash.  I your new rig, since it is most likely
> all
> electronic(no mechanical shift linkage) it could be anywhere or even a
> sub-circuit off whatever triggers reverse in the transmission.  At any
> rate
> there is a wire in there somewhere that either feeds the RL on the vehicle
> or triggers a relay which feeds the RL.  It is also possible that the RL
> are
> switched on the ground side which would require a relay that would switch
> the camera on when it (the relay) was grounded.  Not hard to do either way
> but the first step is to visit your dealer and ask to look over a wiring
> schematic.  If you can get your hands on a service manual for a few
> minutes
> you can find out which side of the circuit is getting switched as well as
> both the circuit number (will be imprinted on the wire every few inches or
> at the connections at the least), the color code of the wires involved and
> a
> "component locator"  which will tell you where to look for things.  It is
> also possible, and very easy to rig one manual switch which will allow the
> camera to be triggered manually, automatically, or left off at all times.
>
> Here's a link to a wiring diagram for the switching.
> http://www.snowplowing-contractors.com/alan_reverse_lights.html
>
> If the system is switched on the hot side follow the left hand drawing
> with
> the camera wired on the wire(blue) marked "new lights".  The camera
> shouldn't draw much power so that drawing should work.  If the camera
> doesn't have it's own supply connection, and does draw all it's power off
> the trigger lead it might be best to wire it using the right hand drawing
> where the only current added to the RL circuit is the tiny amount used to
> trigger the relay.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>
>
>> That's what I may end up doing.   The reverse lights wire will provide
>> the
>> easiest place to find what I need, but they are at the back of the car
>> and
>> the connection that ties to it is from the display which is at the dash.
>>
>> It's a shame cars don't have a punch-down block (used in phone/network
>> wiring).  It appears that everything is done with individual harnesses.
>>
>> Looks like I will run another line next to the shielded video cable from
>> the
>> back of the car to the front.  I'll make sure it's got an in-line fuse
>> that's easy to get to.
>>
>> Thanks for all of the help.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:52 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>
>>> Ok I understand now.   How much power does the camera draw?  You may
>>> well
>>> be
>>> able to simply tap the hot wire to one of the back up lights.   I think
>>> if
>>> it was me that's what I'd try.  The worst that can happen is a blown
>>> fuse.
>>> You could tap both back up light circuits, run the wires to a central
>>> point
>>> and tie them together.  That would split the load between the two.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Dick Day
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:23 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>
>>> Thanks. What I actually need is a lead that only becomes energized when
>>> the
>>> car is put into reverse.  The reverse fuse circuit is bundled with
>>> several
>>> other circuits, so unless I can find a lead somewhere under the dash
>>> that
>>> handles just the reverse lights, I'm pretty sure I'll end up running an
>>> extra line. Not a big deal, was just hoping to avoid running a 12v wire
>>> from
>>> front to back.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:04 AM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>
>>>> Lots of new vehicles also have fuse boxes in the engine compartment.
>>>> You
>>>> might find an extra accessory socket there if you look around.   Also
>>>> you
>>>> could buy a fuse holder and run a wire directly from the battery
>>>> terminal
>>>> with the fuse inline near the battery.   What ever you do don't mess
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> pink wire unless you want to replace your airbags after they deploy.
>>>> For
>>>> safety sake, disconnect the battery before you do any wiring.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Dick Day
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:21 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>
>>>> Dan, thanks. I was hoping that was the case. I'll grab a test light and
>>>> see.
>>>> My back just does not take to that awkward bending like it used to.  I
>>>> wish
>>>> they could mount those fuse/breaker boxes someplace that was easier to
>>>> get
>>>> to ;)
>>>>
>>>> Dick
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Dan Glass" <dglass at numail.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:06 AM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waaayyyy OT
>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure on this particular vehicle but on most there is a fuse
>>>>> box
>>>>> under the dash between the steering column and the door.  It should
>>>>> even
>>>>> be labeled as the back up lights.  That would be a good place to tap
>>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/29/2011 10:13 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>> I am about to install a rear-view camera in our '03 Nav.   The
>>>>>> display/Monitor at the dash has a lead to connect to the reverse
>>>>>> light
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the rear of the car. This is what supplies power to the camera when
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> reverse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if there is a place at the dash that I could connect
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> this?  Or do I need to run an extra power cable to the rear?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this goes well, I'll add one to our '06 as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is such a diverse group of people, I am just curious if anyone
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> this before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>
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