[AJD] Hard starting

[Mark Johnson]

I had another thought on this one...since you have been using starting 
fluid, that pretty
well eliminates the 'bad gasoline' hypothesis - you're effectively replacing 
any missing
volatiles. If you can get started on ether, an old B will likely run on some 
pretty ugly
gasoline, having been designed for distillate.

My next suggestion follows off the 'magneto' thread...is it possible that 
you're getting
spark, but the timing is wrong because the impulse spring isn't set up 
correctly? I can't
recall whether a weak impulse spring will result in no spark, or just late 
spark...maybe
somebody else who knows magnetos well can chime in here.

If the impulse was bringing on the spark too early it still might not start, 
but I'd expect
nastiness like backfiring and such, and that's not what I'm hearing about.

Does the tractor run OK once you get it started? That's another clue that 
the magneto
impulse might be involved...once you're up to idle speed it doesn't do 
anything.

Mark J
'40 H
Wichita, KS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Hard starting


> Thanks Mark,
> Even though it hasnt been run much we have put a couple tanks through it.
> there has been a hole drilled and tapped in front of the carb for the
> injection of starting fluid which we used quite a bit yesterday to no 
> avail.
>
> I'll be heading out in a while to tinker with it some more.
>
> Eric
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Johnson" <mark.s.johnson at pixius.net>
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>
>
>> No more than you've been doing - have you refilled the gas tank recently?
>> It
>> could just
>> be that the fuel is 'aging' - gasoline is a complex mixture of
>> hydrocarbons,
>> and the light
>> fractions that vaporize easily, making it easy to fire up a cold engine,
>> are
>> also the ones
>> that will vaporize out of the fuel the quickest. I've not particularly 
>> had
>> a
>> problem with
>> tractors, but I end up having to dump the gas tank of my small engines
>> (lawnmower,
>> weedwacker, etc) every spring. The small engines won't even 'pop' on the
>> old
>> gas, then
>> pretty much take off on the first or second pull with fresh fuel.
>>
>> Try fresh gasoline, maybe add some Sta-Bil or another fuel stabilizer
>> product. They
>> aren't perfect, but they do help, especially for over-winter storage.
>>
>> Mark J
>> '40 H
>> Wichita, KS
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>> To: "Antique John Deere list"
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 7:44 AM
>> Subject: [AJD] Hard starting
>>
>>
>>> Just curious whare to start!
>>> Jacob has had his 43 B for a couple months-- we havent really done much
>>> with it. Just putting around the farmstead, dragging branches back to 
>>> the
>>> fire pit. Drove it in a parade. But each time we start it, it just keeps
>>> getting harder and harder to get it going. Plugs arent fouled, seems 
>>> like
>>> its getting good spark.
>>> Probably going to have to give it a pull this morning to gat it started
>>> so
>>> we can get it back into the barn.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Eric & Jacob
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