[AT] Fw: Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...

Sat Oct 30 16:14:45 PDT 2010

Dick I doubt I'll be getting one any time soon unless I win the lottery. 
Things are slow in my world.

Charlie

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From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:32 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...

> Charlie, that was the other item on my wish list. seriously, that 16k pto
> genset is something I have drooled over for some time. Mike Sloan had some
> very compelling reasons to avoid import items with electronics.  again, 
> I've
> wasted that much money on other things before.    if you do get one, 
> please
> let us know how it performs.
>
> dick
>
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> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:56 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...
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> I bet it will do just fine Dick.   I was looking on their web site today 
> and
> wondering about that 16 KW PTO powered genset they have.  I think it's
> $1300.00 or so.  If it is dependable I'd sure like to have it.
>
> Charlie
>
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> From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 5:21 PM
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>> Apparently Northern Tools has that handled.  Now that I have had a chance
>> to
>> look it over carefully, I am impressed. I was not expecting a quality
>> product, but so far it seems to be ok.
>>
>> The true test will be how well it performs when moving snow instead of 
>> air
>> :)
>>
>> Dick
>>
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>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 2:43 PM
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>>
>> Sounds ok to me Dick.  The only question that pops in my mind and this is
>> out of ignorance on my part.  If it is shipped direct to you from the
>> manufacturer in Canada are you going to have to pay some sort of import
>> duty?
>>
>> Charlie Hill
>>
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>> From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 3:18 PM
>> To: "ATIS" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have my flame suit on :)
>>>
>>> I checked around with local implement dealers as well as on-line ag
>>> search
>>> engines and found little in the way of used or new 72" snow blowers for
>>> under $2k.
>>>
>>> So, despite all of the excellent reasons not to buy the $1399 Braber 
>>> from
>>> Northern Tools... I just took delivery of my shiny new black Braber snow
>>> blower.
>>>
>>> This same blower (shown in red because it's the older model) sells in
>>> Canada
>>> (on-line) for $2495 plus freight...
>>> http://www.ironsearch.com/Searches-Farm/SmartSort-Popular/Braber/1405254.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the link to the Northern Toll website for this item (shown in
>>> black
>>> which is the updated model) at $1399 plus freight...
>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200435197_200435197
>>>
>>>
>>> If it turns out to be junk, it's nothing that cannot be
>>> fixed/welded/fabricated locally.  The warranty (12 mos parts, no labor)
>>> is
>>> what I would expect for a product that sells for 50% of normal retail.
>>> It
>>> will not be used commercially and frankly now that I own one, it may
>>> never
>>> snow again, in which case, I got my money's worth :)
>>>
>>> Before buying, I conversed with Aaron Van Beers of Braber.  I told him
>>> that
>>> I was frankly concerned with a product that sells for considerably less
>>> than
>>> other similar units. Here was his reply...
>>>
>>> Quality - For the money, very very good value.
>>> We make these ourselves, but in China.
>>> BE (Braber Equipment) makes all kinds of spare parts and machines.
>>>
>>> Prices - Prices are very sharp, we actually had price increase when we
>>> made
>>> modifications, but did not pass along to Northern Tool.
>>>
>>> These come with PTO Shaft.
>>>
>>> We're based out of Canada, and Northern will never see the unit, it's a
>>> ship
>>> direct from us to you.
>>> We sold many units last year through our dealer network in Ontario, and
>>> we
>>> had great feedback.
>>>
>>> The prices are low because of where it's made, typical scenario with 
>>> many
>>> things these days.
>>> We supervise the production, and inspect all units before they ship.
>>>
>>> Unit comes assembled.
>>>
>>> Standard chain drive and shearbolts
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:50 AM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Snow Blower
>>>
>>> When I was in the tractor and implement selling business, you could
>>> generally go by the weight and price when comparing similar items.
>>>
>>> That being said, I never sold a new three-point snow blower. The reason
>>> was that there were so many barely used ones available if someone really
>>> wanted one. And there lay the problem: Almost anyone who has ever used a
>>> rear mounted snow blower decided to sell it immediately afterward. There
>>> are many reasons for folks being unhappy with them, but the first one is
>>> that they are literally a pain in the neck to use - after a very short
>>> time, you find yourself in pain from having to twist yourself around to
>>> operate the machine. The second problem is operating in reverse - older
>>> tractors have only one speed in reverse, and even modern tractors have
>>> maybe two speeds (too fast and too slow). I guess if you have a hydro
>>> you might be OK, but a snow blower needs to be fed into the snow just
>>> right. And, of course, a snow blower does just that: blows snow. If you
>>> happen to have the wind shift, you wind up being dumped on, and if you
>>> have a cab, the whole back of the cab gets instantly blanketed and has
>>> to be cleaned off. Then, there are the usual problems with all snow
>>> blowers - clogging with wet snow, jams from the machine "finding" hidden
>>> objects (rocks, children's toys, hunks of fallen trees, etc.), shooting
>>> small objects long distances into cars/trucks/houses, etc. The only
>>> advantage of a three point mounted snow blower is that it adds a fair
>>> amount of weight to the back of the tractor for traction when pushing
>>> snow with a front blade/bucket.
>>>
>>> If you are still determined to try a three point blower, I suspect you
>>> would be better off either borrowing one from a disgruntled neighbor or
>>> buying a good used one, rather than investing good money in a new Asian
>>> manufactured one. You can generally find a good used blower for under
>>> $1000. Put a "wanted" ad in your local "Penny Saver" magazine or
>>> newspaper, and you will have a dozen responses the next day.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 8/15/2010 7:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>> I just received the 2010 Northern Tools catalog.  As I said in a
>>>> previous
>>>> post concerning Harbor Freight, I normally do not buy big-ticket items
>>>> from
>>>> Northern or HF.
>>>>
>>>> However... in the new Northern catalog, a 3-pt snowblower  did catch my
>>>> eye.
>>>> It's a Canadian product from a company called Braber...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200435197_200435197?cm_ven=natural&cm_cat=netconcepts&cm_pla=Yahoo&cm_ite=braber%2Bsnowblower
>>>>
>>>> $1399 for a 72" blower is mighty tempting.  It lacks the bells and
>>>> whistles
>>>> on the more expensive units. The cheapest I've ever seen new around 
>>>> here
>>>> (Nebraska) has been around $4800.
>>>>
>>>> Ever heard of Braber?  Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Dick Day
>>>>
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