[AT] Fw: Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Oct 30 14:56:26 PDT 2010


I bet it will do just fine Dick.   I was looking on their web site today and 
wondering about that 16 KW PTO powered genset they have.  I think it's 
$1300.00 or so.  If it is dependable I'd sure like to have it.

Charlie

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From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 5:21 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...

> Apparently Northern Tools has that handled.  Now that I have had a chance 
> to
> look it over carefully, I am impressed. I was not expecting a quality
> product, but so far it seems to be ok.
>
> The true test will be how well it performs when moving snow instead of air
> :)
>
> Dick
>
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> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 2:43 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...
>
> Sounds ok to me Dick.  The only question that pops in my mind and this is
> out of ignorance on my part.  If it is shipped direct to you from the
> manufacturer in Canada are you going to have to pay some sort of import
> duty?
>
> Charlie Hill
>
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> From: "Dick Day" <ddss at telebeep.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: "ATIS" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: [AT] Fw:  Snow Blower REPOST using new acct...
>
>>
>>
>> I have my flame suit on :)
>>
>> I checked around with local implement dealers as well as on-line ag 
>> search
>> engines and found little in the way of used or new 72" snow blowers for
>> under $2k.
>>
>> So, despite all of the excellent reasons not to buy the $1399 Braber from
>> Northern Tools... I just took delivery of my shiny new black Braber snow
>> blower.
>>
>> This same blower (shown in red because it's the older model) sells in
>> Canada
>> (on-line) for $2495 plus freight...
>> http://www.ironsearch.com/Searches-Farm/SmartSort-Popular/Braber/1405254.aspx
>>
>>
>> Here is the link to the Northern Toll website for this item (shown in
>> black
>> which is the updated model) at $1399 plus freight...
>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200435197_200435197
>>
>>
>> If it turns out to be junk, it's nothing that cannot be
>> fixed/welded/fabricated locally.  The warranty (12 mos parts, no labor) 
>> is
>> what I would expect for a product that sells for 50% of normal retail. 
>> It
>> will not be used commercially and frankly now that I own one, it may 
>> never
>> snow again, in which case, I got my money's worth :)
>>
>> Before buying, I conversed with Aaron Van Beers of Braber.  I told him
>> that
>> I was frankly concerned with a product that sells for considerably less
>> than
>> other similar units. Here was his reply...
>>
>> Quality - For the money, very very good value.
>> We make these ourselves, but in China.
>> BE (Braber Equipment) makes all kinds of spare parts and machines.
>>
>> Prices - Prices are very sharp, we actually had price increase when we
>> made
>> modifications, but did not pass along to Northern Tool.
>>
>> These come with PTO Shaft.
>>
>> We're based out of Canada, and Northern will never see the unit, it's a
>> ship
>> direct from us to you.
>> We sold many units last year through our dealer network in Ontario, and 
>> we
>> had great feedback.
>>
>> The prices are low because of where it's made, typical scenario with many
>> things these days.
>> We supervise the production, and inspect all units before they ship.
>>
>> Unit comes assembled.
>>
>> Standard chain drive and shearbolts
>>
>> Regards
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:50 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Snow Blower
>>
>> When I was in the tractor and implement selling business, you could
>> generally go by the weight and price when comparing similar items.
>>
>> That being said, I never sold a new three-point snow blower. The reason
>> was that there were so many barely used ones available if someone really
>> wanted one. And there lay the problem: Almost anyone who has ever used a
>> rear mounted snow blower decided to sell it immediately afterward. There
>> are many reasons for folks being unhappy with them, but the first one is
>> that they are literally a pain in the neck to use - after a very short
>> time, you find yourself in pain from having to twist yourself around to
>> operate the machine. The second problem is operating in reverse - older
>> tractors have only one speed in reverse, and even modern tractors have
>> maybe two speeds (too fast and too slow). I guess if you have a hydro
>> you might be OK, but a snow blower needs to be fed into the snow just
>> right. And, of course, a snow blower does just that: blows snow. If you
>> happen to have the wind shift, you wind up being dumped on, and if you
>> have a cab, the whole back of the cab gets instantly blanketed and has
>> to be cleaned off. Then, there are the usual problems with all snow
>> blowers - clogging with wet snow, jams from the machine "finding" hidden
>> objects (rocks, children's toys, hunks of fallen trees, etc.), shooting
>> small objects long distances into cars/trucks/houses, etc. The only
>> advantage of a three point mounted snow blower is that it adds a fair
>> amount of weight to the back of the tractor for traction when pushing
>> snow with a front blade/bucket.
>>
>> If you are still determined to try a three point blower, I suspect you
>> would be better off either borrowing one from a disgruntled neighbor or
>> buying a good used one, rather than investing good money in a new Asian
>> manufactured one. You can generally find a good used blower for under
>> $1000. Put a "wanted" ad in your local "Penny Saver" magazine or
>> newspaper, and you will have a dozen responses the next day.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 8/15/2010 7:26 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>> I just received the 2010 Northern Tools catalog.  As I said in a 
>>> previous
>>> post concerning Harbor Freight, I normally do not buy big-ticket items
>>> from
>>> Northern or HF.
>>>
>>> However... in the new Northern catalog, a 3-pt snowblower  did catch my
>>> eye.
>>> It's a Canadian product from a company called Braber...
>>>
>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200435197_200435197?cm_ven=natural&cm_cat=netconcepts&cm_pla=Yahoo&cm_ite=braber%2Bsnowblower
>>>
>>> $1399 for a 72" blower is mighty tempting.  It lacks the bells and
>>> whistles
>>> on the more expensive units. The cheapest I've ever seen new around here
>>> (Nebraska) has been around $4800.
>>>
>>> Ever heard of Braber?  Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dick Day
>>>
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