[AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday

[charlie hill]

Larry, It occurs to me that he probably replaced a very old and inefficient 
oil burner.  Probably in the 35 or 40% range.   Regardless the bottom line 
is he's getting all that heating and hot water done for 500 round bales of 
waste biomass.

Charlie

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From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 12:29 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday

> That's an unbelievable efficiency.  That would mean that one forage bale 
> is approximately equal to one barrel of oil.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 11:13
> Subject: Re: [AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>
>> Here are some links you might be interested in:
>>
>> http://www.gekgasifier.com/gasification-store/gasifier-genset-skids/
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JyazgRBtq8
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceLu3h5SkXM
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLC2vnQh67E
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpXIsijbRnE
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wmGgxrHAp0
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27xDtXzjogk
>>
>> I found several of these while looking for the last one.
>> They pretty well
>> show the range of the technology.  It has gotten pretty
>> sophisticated.In that last video, if I understand the guy
>> correctly he has coverted his
>> dairy farm to run on a gasifier fired with round bales and has
>> gone from
>> 30,000 liters of oil per year to 500 round bales per year.
>> He says a round
>> bale = 140 liters of oil.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Grant Brians" <sales at heirloom-organic.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:18 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: [AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday
>>
>> > Wood Gasifiers were the technology that allowed Germany to run
>> civilian> engines during the latter parts of WWII. They were
>> common in eastern
>> > Europe
>> > and Russia during the same time period because of the
>> petroleum situation
>> > then. Few people today think about the reason why Germany and
>> Romania were
>> > allies or Japan tried to take over Indonesia and South East
>> Asia - Oil! In
>> > Germany's case they had no domestic petroleum sources and got
>> all of their
>> > oil from Romania and the middle east. Russia had petroleum
>> resources even
>> > then and that was one of the factors that drove Hitler to
>> invade Russia.
>> > It
>> > is unclear whether his motivations there were a major factor
>> or not, but
>> > it
>> > was a factor.
>> >     In Japan's case, they also had to
>> import the petroleum. At the time
>> > there was little production in NE Asia (only Sakhalin that was
>> disputed
>> > with
>> > Russia) at all and there were no Siberian fields like now.
>> Manchuria in
>> > China was taken over for natural resources and the factories
>> that Japanese
>> > companies had built there.
>> >            Grant Brians
>> >            Hollister,California
>> >            Vegetable, Nuts and Fruit farmer
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of
>> charlie hill
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:37 PM
>> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] WooHoo
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark I spent a bunch of time last year reading up on
>> Gasifiers.  That is
>> > promising technology if and when it gets to the point that
>> fuel is
>> > unavailable or too expensive.
>> > Even FEMA has a site telling how to build and use gasifiers.
>> >
>> > Charlie Hill
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Mark Greer" <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:55 AM
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] WooHoo
>> >
>> >> Post it again. I just ran into a guy who is building a
>> hydrogen generator
>> >> system to use on his truck to increase fuel mileage. Looks
>> interesting. I
>> >> also have a friend from church who is looking into a wood
>> gasifier system
>> >> that is a 10kw power generator.
>> >> http://www.gekgasifier.com/reactor-options/imbert-downdraft/
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >
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