[AT] Drag line engine ID wanted- update
charlie hill
charliehill at embarqmail.com
Mon Nov 22 13:55:47 PST 2010
Ron is there a connection between Bantam and Bucyrus Erie? On first glance
I thought it was a B-E. I took the pictures to a guy that grew up working
draglines and he said it was a B-E and then sent it to a guy that still runs
draglines and knows B-E draglines up one side and down the other and he said
it was a B-E. That makes me wonder if Bucyrus Erie bought out Bantam.
Particularly because all of my contacts say it is a 15 B or smaller. That
makes me wonder if the B in 15 B stands for Bantam.
Anyone know? Also Rupert, where was the serial # plate located in the cab?
On the Bucyrus rigs it is supposed to be right behind the operators seat at
the bottom of the cab wall.
Charlie Hill
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From: "Ron Cook" <rlcook at longlines.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:40 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Drag line engine ID wanted- update
> I thought that looked like a Bantam. Most were put on CCKW 6X6 trucks
> with half the cab cut down for a place for the boom to sit while being
> roaded. Someone will know what engine they used in the draglines, but
> it isn't me.
>
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
>
> On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Rupert wrote:
>> Hello Guys,
>> We found a plate with multiple coats of paint on it that reveals the
>> maker of the dragline. See a pic of the plate after we spent a hour or
>> so removing the three coats of paint at
>> <http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Pictures/Crane%20ID.jpg>.
>>
>> We found that a civilian model T35 may be the same crane as the M49
>> while doing some googling last night.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> On 11/16/2010 8:00 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>> I hope to get to the drag line this week end. Do you or anyone else
>>> know where I'm likely to find a name plate for the crane?
>>> All that is left of the engine plate on the bell housing is the four
>>> corners as can be seen in the picture so that one isn't much help.
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>> On 11/16/2010 3:46 PM, Larry Goss wrote:
>>>>> From what I know of the company (I updated all their IPL's in the
>>>>> mid-70's) B-E never made their own engines. Those were purchased
>>>>> items from everyone under the sun.
>>>> We were working with original drawings that dated from 1935 on some of
>>>> the product lines. At one time, I had a complete set of aperture cards
>>>> that contained every drawing for their 20-ton drag line.
>>>> Unfortunately, I got tired of "carrying it around" so I could use it as
>>>> a demo for my students of what such body of documents looked like --
>>>> around 3500 computer cards. I finally pitched it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: charlie hill<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 16:08
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Drag line engine ID wanted
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion
>>>> group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Dave, I took the pictures to my friend and he says it is a
>>>>> Bucyrus. He
>>>>> says smaller than a 15B maybe a 11 or 12 but he couldn't recall
>>>>> the numbers.
>>>>> We have another friend that would know right off the top of his
>>>>> head but
>>>>> it's hard to get up with him sometimes..
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Dave Merchant"<kosh at ncweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:10 PM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Drag line engine ID wanted
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bantam is what came to me too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope to eventually get a machine to keep at Brownsville.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave Merchant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 07:36 AM 11/16/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Almost looks like a Bantam, They used a lot of Buda engines.
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Mattias Kessén<davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 11:59:41 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Drag line engine ID wanted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no clue but what a cool rig. I would love to see that
>>>>> one working.
>>>>>>> Mattias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/11/15 Rupert<rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>>> My son-in-law
>>>>> acquired a dragline on the week end. I posted a
>>>>>>>> picture
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>> <http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Pictures/Drag%20line.jpg> He
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> like some help confirming the brand or maker of the engine.
>>>>>>>> Also, he is
>>>>> looking for a magneto for the engine as the mag is
>>>>>>>> missing.
>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yvt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rupert Wenig
>>>>>>>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>>>>>>>
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