[AT] More on the water pump

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Nov 18 05:46:56 PST 2010


Jim that is my experience too.  The problems I've had with computer cars and 
trucks are the same old problems all vehicles have but the idiot mechanics 
around here think they have to start with the most expensive component and 
work their way back until accidentally solve the problem.

Charlie

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From: "Jim & Lyn Evans" <jevans at evanstoys.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:39 PM
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Subject: Re: [AT] More on the water pump

> If everyone is paying attention to this thread, you will see that it is 
> the
> same old stuff that goes wrong with the new cars as what went wrong with 
> the
> old cars.   If you can fix an old tractor you can fix a new car 90% of the
> time with a little bit of thinking and diagnostic time (and maybe a little
> advise from the internet)
>
> Check the plug wires, plugs, and vacuum lines first when your new car is
> running bad.  Other common problems are the wiring connectors are 
> corroded.
> Unplug them and check that the terminals are clean and not rusty and when
> you plug it back in, it might magically begin working again.   I think the
> majority of oxygen sensors that are replaced are not bad, but all it 
> really
> needed was to be unplugged and plugged back in to scrape off a little
> corrosion.  Same with a computer.  I think they rarely go bad, so why are
> they replaced so often (for $1000 or so)?
>
> I have driven about 5 computer controlled vehicles to 150,000 -200,000 
> miles
> each.  Maybe I am lucky, but the only "computer" component I have ever
> replaced was a glow plug controller on my pickup.    I have replaced 
> plugs,
> plug wires, vacuum hoses, alternators, etc, and have fixed several 
> corroded
> connectors and chafed wires.
>
> I do have a $150 scan tool to help me diagnose where to look when I do 
> have
> problems.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Len Rugen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:45 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] More on the water pump
>
> My son had a pickup that ran erratic at times.  Mechanic said it needed
> a new fuel injector pump, I don't remember how much, but a LOT.  He took
> it to a neighbor of the farmer he worked for, who told him he would have
> to leave it overnight.    After it got dark, he started it, sprayed
> water on the spark plug wires and found a boot with a hole in it,
> jumping thru the boot to ground.  Total bill under $20.  He cusses the
> new high output spark setup and fixes a lot of them this way.
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