[AT] More on the water pump

[charlie hill]

David,  I know guys that are mechanics who honestly think that if the 
computer sets a code for, for example, the oxygen sensor that it is just the 
oxygen sensor that is bad.  They never check the output voltage on the 
sensor they just replace it.  Then the code sets again and they are stumped. 
They don't understand that some other component is out of spec and causing 
the oxygen sensor to be out of range and set a code.  Some of them are good 
guys.  They just don't know any better.  Some do know better and are crooks.

Charlie

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From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:26 AM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] More on the water pump

> While I was waiting another customer was relating to James (the shop
> owner) the horror story of a $1700 bill at another shop (a dealer) to
> finally find the problem was a ground circuit in the engine control
> module.  Multiple examples of parts swapping even a supposed removal and
> cleaning of the gas tank (funny how they could remove the tank but leave
> the mud and grime on the bolts).
>
> He isn't the cheapest per hour but his work most always exceeds any
> dealership.  Of course there are a few things he doesn't have the
> equipment to handle but very few.  He has built his business on his
> reputation for honesty and always has plenty of work lined up.
>
> His shop is far from a parts changer and they always start with a
> diagnosis in this case somewhat lengthy.
>
> To give you an example of the confidence I have in him he handles all
> the work on my mom's car and very seldom do I get involved.
>
> David
> NW NC
>
> On 11/15/2010 10:37 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> David you are lucky to have a dependable mechanic these days. 
>> Particularly
>> one that knows how to work on modern stuff at a reasonable price.  Most 
>> of
>> them now just throw expensive parts at it until it's fixed and charge by 
>> the
>> rate book for each part regardless if it was needed or fixed the problem.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:54 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion 
>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] More on the water pump
>>
>>> Yes for the MF and it did include a new pulley.  Not upset with the
>>> price overall and I was surprised it was in  stock.
>>>
>>> While I was out I took the car in for service.  The check engine light
>>> was on and the mechanic had read and reset it a couple times.  This time
>>> a full blown diagnostic - $5 piece of vacuum hose with a pinhole.  $75
>>> total bill.  Just the nature of these more complex engines I guess.
>>>
>>> He has been my mechanic for about a decade now and I have always been
>>> happy with the work.  I feel I can depend on his opinion.
>>>
>>> David
>>> NW NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/15/2010 4:06 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>> Yeah I think I got a good deal.  Mine was new too but I don't know how
>>>> long
>>>> the fellow had it in stock.  $95 probably isn't bad.  It's for your MF
>>>> isn't
>>>> it?  That's a little different pump from the one on the AC tractors. 
>>>> I'm
>>>> not surprised at that price.
>>>>
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>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:34 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: [AT] More on the water pump
>>>>
>>>>> Charlie Hill I was almost right when I said probably double in price
>>>>> from the $45 you remembered - $95 but it was in stock and new not
>>>>> remanufactured.  Was expecting it to be an order item but wasn't that
>>>>> bothered as the rain got here a day early - old time shade tree work
>>>>> here.  I figured if it was an order item I could have it by Wed. which
>>>>> is supposed to be clear once again.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> NW NC
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