[AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday

[Larry Goss]

That's an unbelievable efficiency.  That would mean that one forage bale is approximately equal to one barrel of oil.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 11:13
Subject: Re: [AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>

> Here are some links you might be interested in:
> 
> http://www.gekgasifier.com/gasification-store/gasifier-genset-skids/
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JyazgRBtq8
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceLu3h5SkXM
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLC2vnQh67E
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpXIsijbRnE
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wmGgxrHAp0
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27xDtXzjogk
> 
> I found several of these while looking for the last one.  
> They pretty well 
> show the range of the technology.  It has gotten pretty 
> sophisticated.In that last video, if I understand the guy 
> correctly he has coverted his 
> dairy farm to run on a gasifier fired with round bales and has 
> gone from 
> 30,000 liters of oil per year to 500 round bales per year.  
> He says a round 
> bale = 140 liters of oil.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Grant Brians" <sales at heirloom-organic.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:18 AM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: [AT] Gasifier comments - re messages from Saturday
> 
> > Wood Gasifiers were the technology that allowed Germany to run 
> civilian> engines during the latter parts of WWII. They were 
> common in eastern 
> > Europe
> > and Russia during the same time period because of the 
> petroleum situation
> > then. Few people today think about the reason why Germany and 
> Romania were
> > allies or Japan tried to take over Indonesia and South East 
> Asia - Oil! In
> > Germany's case they had no domestic petroleum sources and got 
> all of their
> > oil from Romania and the middle east. Russia had petroleum 
> resources even
> > then and that was one of the factors that drove Hitler to 
> invade Russia. 
> > It
> > is unclear whether his motivations there were a major factor 
> or not, but 
> > it
> > was a factor.
> >     In Japan's case, they also had to 
> import the petroleum. At the time
> > there was little production in NE Asia (only Sakhalin that was 
> disputed 
> > with
> > Russia) at all and there were no Siberian fields like now. 
> Manchuria in
> > China was taken over for natural resources and the factories 
> that Japanese
> > companies had built there.
> >            Grant Brians
> >            Hollister,California
> >            Vegetable, Nuts and Fruit farmer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of 
> charlie hill
> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:37 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] WooHoo
> >
> >
> > Mark I spent a bunch of time last year reading up on 
> Gasifiers.  That is
> > promising technology if and when it gets to the point that 
> fuel is
> > unavailable or too expensive.
> > Even FEMA has a site telling how to build and use gasifiers.
> >
> > Charlie Hill
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Mark Greer" <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:55 AM
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AT] WooHoo
> >
> >> Post it again. I just ran into a guy who is building a 
> hydrogen generator
> >> system to use on his truck to increase fuel mileage. Looks 
> interesting. I
> >> also have a friend from church who is looking into a wood 
> gasifier system
> >> that is a 10kw power generator.
> >> http://www.gekgasifier.com/reactor-options/imbert-downdraft/
> >> Mark
> >>
> >
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