[AT] [BULK] Re: OT--(but tractors do use oil)

[John Wilkens]

Hi Gordon!  Well maybe if the pressure from below can get the oil up 
to the tanker a short siphon action would help a little, but I don't 
see how that little bit of siphon action would bring anything up from 
the sea bottom.  IE:  when you siphon gas OUT of the old man's truck 
your gas can had to be below the gasoline source.  No big deal--just 
a wonderment.  I'm more interested right now in putting finishing 
touches on my GPO.  Waiting on a muffler assembly from Cork and an 
air cleaner can from L. Van Zate.  Got the steel wheels primered 
today.  I wonder how many coats of yellow will be needed for 
covering.      John W.



At 02:57 PM 05/16/2010, you wrote:
>John
>If the oil is lighter than water and it starts up the tube helped by the
>pressure from below and reaches the top and a loop was made at the top would
>not then start a siphon action?
>
>My question is how are they ever going to be able to shut it off? Without
>being sealed off around the broken line how do they keep the water out?
>
>Just dumb Arkie thoughts.
>Gordon
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Wilkens" <jwilkens at eoni.com>
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>Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 4:14 PM
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>
> > Hi Chuck.  I wasn't thinking about the pressure involved.  "siphon"
> > doesn't seem to fit though.    John W.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:45 AM 05/16/2010, you wrote:
> >>On 5/16/2010 10:49 AM, John Wilkens wrote:
> >> > What am I missing.  How can BP "siphon" the spilled oil UPHILL?    John
> >> > W.
> >> >
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> >>John,
> >>
> >>They are likely inserting a pipe into a broken end of the pipe
> >>spewing oil (under great pressure) into the ocean water around the
> >>break.  I suspect that the closer the diameter of the inserted pipe to the
> >>broken spewing tubing, the greater the volume of leaking oil
> >>they can capture.  Doubtless you will see a diagram of any successful
> >>attempt at inserting the pipe in a newspaper or web article soon - perhaps
> >>it is already shown. There are many factors involved in what percentage
> >>of the leaking oil they can capture.
> >>
> >>Years ago when I was involved in quoting subsea chokes to Phillips
> >>I found deep water drilling problems were complex, difficult, dangerous,
> >>and flat out amazing.  It is not a new science, but the new technology
> >>coming from this incident should be interesting.
> >>
> >>Chuck Bealke
> >>
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