[AT] Iron and lots of it, now nylon rope

Herbert Metz metz-h.b at mindspring.com
Mon May 10 17:51:58 PDT 2010


Ralph;
Several decades ago few people would have imagined sometime using plastic
rope (as a tow cable).
Herb

> [Original Message]
> From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 5/10/2010 8:08:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Iron and lots of it
>
> Its true, mfd or fwa tractors are geared slightly higher in the front
axle 
> according to my manual anyway. (CaseIH 7130). Thats why it is not 
> recommended to have the front axle engaged on hard surface roads as it
can 
> cause drive train stress.
> I sure wouldn't go without it in the field though. It wasn't enough to
save 
> me on Saturday but I was able to unhitch and drive the tractor out of the 
> mud, then with the aid of a huge long nylon rope I pulled the cultivator
and 
> anhydrous tank out to semi-dry ground. Hard to find solid dry ground in
that 
> field.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Iron and lots of it
>
>
> > I'll go along with what you and Al say Steve.  I was thinking there was
a
> > difference in ratio.  I  guess I had it backward.  Anyway the answer to 
> > the
> > original question is that the FWA is not intended to handle the entire 
> > load
> > but only to "assist".
> >
> > I've got a little experience with articulated tractors in the form of
log
> > skidders.  I'm pretty sure they are geared the same front and rear.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Iron and lots of it
> >
> >
> >> Al Jones wrote:
> >>> Charlie,
> >>>
> >>> I think the front is actually geared a little faster than the rear.
> >>>
> >>> We bought our first FWA tractor this spring.  When pulling a disk, it
> >>> slips
> >>> like crazy.  Kick the FWA in, and it pulls like crazy.  Amazing. 
Takes
> >>> 40
> >>> acres to turn it around though.
> >>>
> >>> Al
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most of the FWA tractors are geared just a bit faster than the rears.
> >> This enables the front end to help stabilize the tractor and allow
> >> better control by pulling the front end a bit more than the rear pushes
> >> it. Where this becomes a problem is on high traction surfaces. The
> >> different gearing makes the front end try to pull the tractor and the
> >> parts in it are not capable of doing that. It tends to wear them out or
> >> break them. Where the FWA really shines is on a loader tractor IF the
> >> conditions are a bit slippery like loading manure or loose gravel and
> >> the like. Then it makes turning easier without resorting to steering
> >> brakes.
> >>
> >> Now if you really want to break one there is a simple way. Through a
> >> loader on it and fill the bucket with heavy dirt and then turn sharp on
> >> pavement. It's a great way to break parts. One of the locals manages to
> >> break the front on his kubota at least once a year doing this type
> >> stuff.... He has more money than brains though!
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Steve W.
> >> (\___/)
> >> (='.'=)
> >> (")_(")
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