[AT] Farmall H wide front end

Wed Mar 31 18:12:53 PDT 2010

I don't know Dean.  I have little experience on narrow front tractors but I 
can tell you that I've had wide fronts roll to the point that the front 
wheel was the only thing that kept it from going over.  It's not a 
comfortable feeling and I certainly wouldn't intentionally put myself in a 
position where I had to depend on the front end to prevent a roll over but 
I'm CERTAIN if I'd been on a NF in those situations it would have rolled.

After this discussion started the other day I decided to do an experiment 
with some of my die cast tractors.  Try it.  Pick out two models that are 
the same or very similar except that one has a wide front and the other a 
NF.  Sit them on a table and start lifting one rear wheel of each with the 
tip of your finger under the top of the rim.  I think you'll fine the WF 
will go up several degrees, maybe as much as 10 degs. higher before it 
rolls.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Van Peursem" <deanvp at att.net>
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I suspect you will find that even with a wide front end that once a rear 
wheel starts lifting off
the ground there is enough rotational freedom in the WFE that it isn't much 
safer than a narrow
front end tractor, if any.

Dean VP
Apache Junction, AZ

"It takes two to speak truth -- one to speak and another to hear." - Henry 
David Thoreau

-----Original Message-----
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Of Bruce Moden
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall H wide front end

Thanks Dave,
It's been about 58 years since I took HS Physics & it's probably a good time 
for a refresher course!
Bruce (Pharmr)

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall H wide front end
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 3:08 PM
> You might want to refer back to your
> HS Physics book before you
> discredit this particular "old wives tale!"
> Dave
>
> On Mar 29, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Bruce Moden wrote:
>
> > Thanks Mike,
> > In all my years of tractors I never owned or drove a
> NFE tractor but
> > had always resisted having one because of the old
> wives tales about
> > easier turn overs. Maybe I'll leave this one
> narrow if it is an
> > easy fix, 'cause it's going to be a parade tractor if
> I get it
> > finished!!!
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall H wide front end
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>
> > >
> > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 1:32 PM
> >
> >
> > This has been discussed in the past, but some folks
> are new to this
> > discussion: a wide front end provides little or no
> protection from a
> > roll-over compared to a narrow front end. Once one of
> the rear tires
> > leaves the ground, there is a very good chance you are
> going over,
> > narrow or wide. The reason for this is that the wide
> front axle pivots
> > only about a foot higher than the narrow front end.
> Unlike a car or
> > truck, there is no resistance to a roll-over from the
> front tires -
> > once
> > the axle reaches the limit of its movement, it is too
> late.
> >
> > The main reasons for going to a wide front are 1. a
> better ride on
> > rough
> > ground and 2. only two tracks through the soil vs.
> three. What you
> > give
> > up is 1. mechanical simplicity and 2. tighter turning
> circle. I also
> > like being able to tuck narrow front tractors into the
> limited space
> > in
> > my shed by parking them nose to nose. But that's just
> my personal
> > view.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Bruce Moden wrote:
> >> Bob, The wobble is probably the driving force in
> the decision,
> >> however my farm has a few hillside trails, creeks
> & ditches, so the
> >> roll-over factor is part of the concern. thanks
> for the suggestions.
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Robert L. Holtzer <rholtzer at earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
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