[AT] Off topic, computer related.

charliehill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Mon Mar 15 10:13:53 PDT 2010


Bob, I've been using Microsoft products since the first generation of 
Windows and I've never paid them one dime beyond that portion of the price 
of the computer was apportioned to the  software when I bought it.  All of 
my MS programs are on auto update and have always worked nearly flawlessly. 
You a right, MS is the guy with the big target on his back but some of the 
other browsers are starting to have problems too from what I read.  It's a 
mute point for me since I need to run IE.

Thanks

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic, computer related.


> Charlie -
>
> Since I'm a webmaster for several sites, I wound up losing confidence in
> IE & Microsoft because so may hackers successfully concentrate on it. So
> far, they seem to leave Mozilla's Firefox alone because of the user
> numbers game they play and Mozilla's approach to staying one step ahead,
> similar to to the same reason they don't target Macs. When or if
> Microsoft stops its ongoing quest to either charge or overcharge its
> users for what should be free updated program features, and proves it
> can do it effectively to stop hackers, then I may start using their
> browser and functional services again. But until then ......??
>
> Bob in CNY
>
> On 3/15/2010 11:27 AM, charliehill wrote:
>> David I attempted to do that last night but for some reason missed the
>> prompt to send the computer into safe mode and never got back to it. 
>> That's
>> good advice.  I'll try it when I get time.
>>
>> Ken and everyone,  I was just telling Mike Sloane off list and I'll share 
>> it
>> with everyone.  Mike sent me a link directly to the Firefox download.  I
>> loaded the program without making it my default browser.  I also didn't
>> transfer any files, or favorites, etc.   I went to our county tax mapping
>> site to try and get some work done and just a few minutes into what I was
>> doing another window popped up in Firefox to a bogus search engine site 
>> like
>> the ones that have been re-directing me to the virus site.  I closed out 
>> of
>> it before it could do any damage.  There are no pop-ups or links on the
>> county tax site that I could have possibly hit to make it do this.
>> Something in my machine or online is causing this re-direct problem.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion 
>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic, computer related.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Charlie have you tried booting into "safe mode with networking" then
>>> running an AV product?  If not I would give that a try.
>>>
>>> David
>>> NW NC
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2010 9:25 AM, charliehill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike,  I don't think I'm getting this stuff through normal means
>>>> (whatever
>>>> that would be).
>>>>
>>>>
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