[AT] good view of shifting a 13 speed roadranger

[charliehill]

Yes Ron,  after thinking about it a while that's right.  I'd "preselect" the 
shift to OD and then let it shift by lifting my foot off the throttle but 
when going to the next gear in the gearbox I'd pull the lever into neutral, 
flip the switch back to direct and then pull the lever into gear.

Ron, we were hauling logs and dump trailers most of the time and the 13 
speeds came in handy but running on the highway I always liked the way the 
10 speeds worked.  They just don't have that low hole gear for getting off a 
log deck or getting down in the mud on the farm roads.  I liked driving the 
13 speeds but the 10 speed is probably more dependable long term and it's 
easy enough to master.  Shift 5, pull the button and start over if I 
remember right.  Actually the truck I owned for a while was a 10 speed.  The 
13's I drove all belonged to other folks.  We were all running 8 v 71 
detroits.  Some of the other guys we hauled with were running 290 and 350 
Cummins with 9 speeds.   The cummins engine has such a broad torque band 
that the 9 speed was plenty but you have to keep those Jimmy's screaming.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Cook" <rlcook at longlines.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] good view of shifting a 13 speed roadranger


> Yes!  That is what I noticed, Frank.  And I agree with you 100%.
> Upshift is main up and then aux down.  Downshift is aux up and then main
> down.  Has to be that way.  I bet Charlie does it that way too.  You are
> ahead of me.  I didn't start until 1959, you old duffer.
>
> The Western Star is nice!  Is it Cat powered?  Down here in the flat
> country all I need is my FLD120, 3406 at just 350hp, and 10 speed.
> 80,000 lb gross is all.  A 13 speed would be nicer, especially this time
> of year when the roads are soft.
>
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
>
> Frank wrote:
>> If you will notice..he is shifting the red button before he shifts the 
>> main
>> stick.........if the main stick should happen to come out of gear just a
>> little soon or a little late it will make a big bang and sometimes if it
>> comes out with the bang the transmission will break off near the rear of 
>> the
>> case.....
>> You should shift them main first and as soon as it is in gear shift the 
>> red
>> one....
>>
>> Did not mean to be too critical but it can happen and does .....
>>
>> As Charlie has stated correctly(not disagreeing with you Charlie just be
>> careful when you do it that way) ......but if you end up letting up on 
>> the
>> throttle too quickly  ...and you have already flipped the red....bang
>>
>> I only just started doing this so not the expert......(I started in 1956 
>> and
>> still on the road as of yesterday and STILL not an expert)
>> A couple of the ones I have driven are on my web site and the one I drive
>> now loaded with cement and grossing 115,500.....
>>
>> www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
>>
>> towards the bottom
>>
>>
>> Transmissions I have run:
>> 5 speed main and 4 speed Brownie
>> 4 and 4
>> 5 and 3
>> Heavy 15
>> Roadrangers in 10 13 and 18 speeds
>>
>> 6 speed Alison Automatic
>> 6 Speed Auto with 3 speed Brownie
>> And the best of all was
>> 5 and 4 with a double reduction rear end.(3 sticks)
>>
>> The most miles I have put on are with the 13 Eaton
>> Frank
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>>
>> In a message dated 3/5/2010 6:29:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> gremaux at midrivers.com writes:
>>
>> He is preselecting
>>
>> Can you explain that a bit.  I have an International with a  roadranger.
>> It's a 70's vintage with the "slide selector"  and red and  green air 
>> lines.
>>
>> I only drove it a few miles and parked it.  It has  the DT 466 in it. Way
>> underpowered for what I wanted the truck  for.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Renton, WA
>>
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