[AT] way-WAY off topic Toyota vs. Toyoda???

[charliehill]

thanks guys,  now I understand.   Actually that is much the same as our 
weather here.  The gulf stream runs right up against our coast.  The only 
difference is that the prevailing winds here, also S/W, tend to push some of 
the warming from the gulf stream away from us but when the wind shifts into 
the east or even the south Southwest we immediately warm up.   However in 
the winter, if we have cold air overhead that sometimes causes us to have 
snow.
And, in fact, it happens the same way.  It usually starts snowing when the 
air temp is in the mid 30's F and the soil temp at least that warm.  I just 
didn't expect that same environment so far to the north.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] way-WAY off topic Toyota vs. Toyoda???


Dudley,
You are right about that, usually snow on unfrozen ground doesn't last long
but since we had new almost everyday... :-(

Mattias

2010/3/4 <drupert at seanet.com>

> >Charlie,
>
> Since Mattias said that the last weekend was their first days above
> freezing since Dec 12 but that the ground was warm causing melting from
> underneath I took that to mean that they had probably gotten their first
> snows of the season before any real cold weather had set in and that this
> snow then provided an insulating blanket preventing the subsequent
> continuous cold from lowering the temperature of the earth underneath the
> snow.  Of course, this may not be at all what happened -- maybe Mattias
> can tell us -
>
> Dudley
> >From Snohomish WA where we've had one of the sunniest/mildest February's 
> >I
> can remember in fifty years here -
>
>
>
> Ralph and Mattias, that is what has me confused about what Mattias is
> > describing.  I understand about the wind over the sea creating basically
> > what we call lake effect snow.  Our big snows here in coastal NC happen
> > that
> > way.  What I didn't understand is Mattias is that you said the snow 
> > melts
> > because the ground is warm and I'm having a hard time figuring that out.
> > As
> > far north as you are I would have thought that the ground would be 
> > frozen
> > like Perma-frost in the tundra.  I guess it just isn't normally as cold
> in
> > Sweeden as I imagined.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] way-WAY off topic Toyota vs. Toyoda???
> >
> >
> > Mattias, you'd like our weather I think. Daytime highs around -4c, thats
> > about 25F for the rest of you. No major snow fall for a few weeks now 
> > but
> > we
> > still  have all the snow that fell since early December of course. 
> > You've
> > had far more snow than us. At a guess I'd say over the whole winter we
> > have
> > had about 16 inches (less than half a metre) . I don't know what the
> > ground
> > temperature is because it is generally frozen solid for a few feet down
> by
> > this time of year and pretty hard to get a thermometer into.:-)
> >
> > Ralph in Sask.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] way-WAY off topic Toyota vs. Toyoda???
> >
> >
> > The ground is warm here to, luckily. I don't want to know how it would 
> > be
> > outside otherwise. It has fallen 2.70 meters of snow but it's only 80 cm
> > since it has melted from below and a whole lot the last weekend. The 
> > last
> > weekend was the first days above freezing since dec. 12. Since it has
> been
> > melting from underneath the small creek we have has been like in the
> > spring
> > since Dec. 15th but with some ice.
> >
> > We sure don't want this weather, you can keep it Ralph!
> >
> > Mattias
> >
> >
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