[AT] Garden tractor???/Now RF hazard

[charliehill]

Yes Mattias I think you are right about the heavy metals involved.

 I know there was someone making a solar thin film on something like Mylar 
and I remember they were somewhere in northern Europe.

The folks I am talking about are a new company and a new process somewhere 
on the west coast of the US and they are "printing" the PV on aluminum foil 
of some sort.  I would guess that it would also be on a base like mylar. 
However I don't think this is translucent like the thin film you are 
speaking of.

I keep looking for articles on the progress of the European thin film but 
haven't seen anything in a while.  Supposedly the aluminum foil based 
material in the US is about ready to go to market.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
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>From what I've read but I read it quickly it contained a lot of rare
and toxic materials. They are sure on the right way but seems to still
have a long way to go. There was also a group at a swedish university
(can't remember if it was Chalmers or KTH) studying the same thing.
The Swedish scientists claimed that it was about ten years left until
their results were ready for commercial interests. This is all very
promising since you could tape it to windows etc. I wish I'd taken
more time reading the article maybe the next time.

Mattias

2010/1/26 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
> Hmmm maybe that explains the alleged sightings of UFO's over big power
> transmission lines. grins.
>
> That's all very interesting but I'm scared to death of stuff that you 
> can't
> see that will slip up and bite you.
>
> On a related line of thought. I read yesterday that some company that is
> being partially financed by Google has developed a way to print 
> photovoltaic
> "conductors" (I guess is the right term) onto aluminum foil. They are 
> about
> to get up and running and say they will be turning out thin film solar
> electric panels at about $1.00 per Watt.
> If they are able to do that and the stuff is long term reliable it will
> change the complexion of our energy use.
>
> Charlie
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> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
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>
>
>> charliehill wrote:
>>> There is an "urban legend" around these parts about a guy who lived 
>>> right
>>> up against the fence of a Navy Base in the Norfolk, Va. Beach area of 
>>> VA.
>>> He was supposedly a radar expert that worked for the base. He built some
>>> sort of antenna/concentrator that he used to gather RF from the radar at
>>> the
>>> base and was powering his house with it until the base found out and 
>>> made
>>> him stop.
>>>
>>> I have no idea if that is possible or true. It was told to me by a guy
>>> who
>>> worked there at the same time. He was also some sort of radar tech and
>>> he
>>> seemed to believe it.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>
>> It is VERY possible to do. In fact it is one of the things being talked
>> about for wireless power transmission. The idea is you use a VERY
>> directional transmitted to send a regulated sine-wave signal. At the
>> other end you receive the signal and use a transformer array to convert
>> it into usable power.
>> If you want a simple proof that it works take a look at any crystal
>> radio. It uses the signals power converted into voltage to make it
>> operate. Remember that the way to make the radio work better was to use
>> a larger antenna. The reason for that is that the larger antenna
>> captures more signal and more voltage as a result.
>>
>>
>> I have seen a few cases of power companies taking people to court for
>> theft of services based on a similar concept. The person would take a
>> large coil of wire and lay it out under a high voltage line. The radiant
>> field of the power lines is enough to generate 200+ volts in the lower
>> coil. Basically a large transformer, using air as the inductor core.
>>
>> --
>> Steve W.
>>
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