[AT] was Greg E, Gene D or anybody - VAC HP bump-up question. Now AT(Anti-Topic) "The Horseman"

[Frank]

Mattias:
Neat video........what are the words he is saying to the horses in the very
beginning?

Frank


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Now AT(Anti-Topic) "The Horseman"

There are some people still using horses, check this documentary of
the man now known over the whole nation as the horseman
http://svtplay.se/v/1832282/dokumentarfilm/hastmannen Maybe this is
little to much to watch in swedish but fastforward/rewind and check it
out it will be worthwhile. I saw the last half yesterday at the telly
and have seen it before. It must been shot 5 years ago since at the
end it is about the great storm of januray 9 2005.

Mattias

2010/1/14 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
> My dad used to laugh about how it was when the tractors first started to
> show up around home.  He said a farmer would buy a tractor, figure out how
> to drive it and start out plowing as he would reach the end of the field
> he'd forget how to stop it and you'd hear him yelling Whoa, WHOA, WHOOAAA
> right before the tractor went off into a canal.  He said it happened
fairly
> often.  The old guys were so used to being able to talk to the mule,
having
> to actually do something physical to stop was a foreign concept to them.
 He
> said everyone complained about the noise too.
>
> Charlie
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>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Ken Knierim <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Farmer,
>>> I can't find my copy of "Full Steam Ahead" but I recall a note in there
>>> about how Clausen (the fella running Case at the time) forced the
>>> engineers
>>> to turn the RPM down on the VA series because its power overlapped the S
>>> series (might have been the Continental engine from the V's; it's been
>>> awhile since I read it). He wanted to sell the bigger tractors since
>>> there
>>> was more profit in them. Apparently the same mentality kept the
engineers
>>> from making the VA series with a 6-speed configuration when the price
was
>>> under a couple bucks to add the gears. I believe they used Clark
>>> transmissions (or at least parts) for the gearboxes. More revs, more
>>> gears
>>> and the VA would have been a lot more tractor.
>>>
>>> I would guess the governor is the only difference. I haven't heard
anyone
>>> mention a different camshaft for this little engine unless you go to the
>>> aftermarket. It's probably capable; it's not like this is a really long
>>> stroked engine like its bigger brothers. Gotta get air through it so
more
>>> revs are about the only easy way (if PTO speed isn't an issue).
>>>
>>> Ken in AZ
>> ==========================
>>
>>
>> That reminds me of the RC Allis where they produced a WC with a C
>> engine for those farmers that did not want all of that HP of the WC...
>> :-)  It was truly a different time... There were a lot of very small
>> farmers with a lot of tiny fields that just wanted to replace one team
>> or one horse with a tractor and many were actually afraid of tractors
>> with a lot of power. The depression made for a different mind-set as
>> well. You only bought what you needed for the job at hand. The idea of
>> power to waste just was not how they thought.
>> My paternal grandfather farmed much of his life but never owned a
>> tractor. Around 1920 to 1925 he bought a little 10 acre farm near here
>> and farmed it with a horse or two. They grew stuff like berries and
>> produce etc. My father always said that they worked harder on the
>> little 10 acre farm than any place they ever lived. It was only about
>> 1,000' from the old interurban trolley line and 2 miles from town.
>> Most trips to town and most shipping of produce was by trolley car.
>> I still clearly recall being at the county fair in the early 1950's
>> and hearing the farmers talking about how silly that huge John Deere R
>> was and how you would not be able to turn it around most fields. :-)
>> A few years later I recall discussions with sentences like "why would
>> ANYBODY want a tractor as big as that new John Deere 70 around here".
>> The R of course like most wheatland tractors never did well here, this
>> was row-crop country. The 70s did sell well here though as there were
>> a lot of guys expanding about that time. We see a lot of wheatland
>> tractors at shows here now but they have mostly been shipped in by
>> collectors. We almost never saw them in the fields. The same goes for
>> most high-crops here. This isn't where they were sold new.
>> There were a lot of small farms here in the 1930's and 1940's that
>> didn't grow row crops though. Lots of 20 to 50 acre farms, mostly with
>> a few milk cows, a few beef cows, a flock of chickens, a few pigs and
>> almost the whole place in hay or pasture. Maybe 2 to 5 acres of corn
>> and maybe 5 acres of oats. Big garden. The idea was to make a living
>> to get by, not make a killing. A different time...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Have you hugged your horses today?
>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> aka "farmer"
>> Central Indiana USA
>> robinson46176 at gmail.com
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