[AT] Spam> Re: Spam> bearing cross-reference

[charliehill]

LOL.  Same here Mattias.  I once had the amusement of watching a bunch of 
good ole boy construction workers try to put together a massive piece of 
equipment built in Germany with all the drawings in metric.  They got it 
done but it was ugly at the start.  I think some of them did not even know 
there was a metric system when the job started.  Let me explain, I'm not 
running those guys down.  Lots of them are my friends.  You just don't know 
what was never taught to you.  Most of those guys are good hunters too but 
if an Ardvark ran through the deer lease they'd all be on the radio yelling 
"what the hell was that bubba?"

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Spam> Re: Spam> bearing cross-reference


> Charlie, since I'm in construction business I can tell you I'd rather 
> build
> from drawings with american measures than build from something converted 
> by
> an American, no offense but BTDT :-(
>
> Mattias
>
> 2010/1/6 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Larry, you'll get no arguement from me but I will defend the construction
>> workers.  Lots of them are very skilled craftsmen but at the same time 
>> not
>> very educated.  Lots of the guys I've worked and worked with have been
>> "trained" how to read a tape and they have memorized some short cuts. 
>> NOW
>> put them in the middle of a big construction site, in the hot sun or the
>> cold wind and give them a set of drawings that is in Metric and they are
>> totally lost.  They have NO CLUE where to start to do the conversions and
>> for millrights, pipefitters and layout guys the stuff has to be precise.
>> The only way they can deal with it at all is to convince them to put away
>> their english tapes and rules and give them metric tapes and rules.  Then
>> they are still confused because they don't even know how to communicate a
>> measurement by voice to the guy they are working with.   By the same 
>> token
>> the millrights well understand what .011 means because they have a feeler
>> guage or micrometer that has that reading on it.  They just don't make 
>> the
>> connection between the two and on the job is NOT a good place to re-train
>> them.  The Journeymen have all pretty much picked it up by now.  The
>> problem
>> mainly comes with the helpers and semi-skilled guys.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Spam> Re: Spam> bearing cross-reference
>>
>>
>> > LOL!  I heard this argument (and others) for years from my students.
>>  When
>> > push came to shove, I found that when they came into college, they 
>> > didn't
>> > REALLY know any measurement system at all.  Too often, they were just
>> like
>> > Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" contestants.  I ended up using the metric 
>> > system
>> > in drafting classes exclusively for better than 20 years.
>> >
>> > Almost nothing in our world is manufactured acording to the inch 
>> > system.
>> > It's all metric, and has been for many years.  The only discipline I 
>> > find
>> > that steadfastly contunues to insist on inch measurements is the
>> > construction industry.  But even there, the standards for specifying
>> > dimension lumber and sheet goods is all metric -- even though it's
>> labeled
>> > in inches.
>> >
>> > Let the flames begin.
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 7:37
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] Spam> Re:  Spam> bearing cross-reference
>> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> Yeah Al, but if you could (given the stuff we have) put down the
>> >> english
>> >> system all together and go straight to metric you'd find it easier.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:02 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Spam> Re: Spam> bearing cross-reference
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The metric system is the work of the devil!
>> >> Theoretically it's easier but
>> >> > when you've learned feet, inches, yards, pounds, and ounces
>> >> your whole
>> >> > life, it's misery trying to convert.  The english units
>> >> work just fine and
>> >> > I intend to stay with 'em.
>> >> >
>> >> > Al
>> >> >
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