[AT] Can you hear me now? Rust

Fri Feb 5 19:48:08 PST 2010

I used to read all the trucking magazines and I remember a advetisement 
about one of the trailer manufacturers who put all of their wiring in 
plastic flexible conduit and it connected in waterproof junction boxes 
much like liquidtight conduit.  Otherwise, liquidtight is out there why 
in the world wouldn't they use it on a fire truck.    On a brush pumper 
I cannot think of anything that is subject to more wiring problems.  The 
wiring should be run on top of the vehicle.

I recently was at a pecan harvesting machinery manufacturer, I asked why 
something was done the way it was when watching a cracking machine.   I 
was told to stick with engineering dams and reservoirs and he would 
stick to the mechanical engineering....

I almost told the smart a** that I had my first career in Mechanical 
engineering and switched over to civil because all the jobs had gone 
overseas..   Now I correct civil engineering mistakes in foundations and 
water retention embankments..

Cecil in OKla

CEE VILL wrote:
> That is one of the advantages of working on old tractors, Charlie.  Nuts and bolts can be out in the weather for 50 or 75 years and come apart easier than automotive items that have been exposed to salt for 5 or 10 years.  It is not uncommon for brake line fittings, muffler clamps and other nuts to have no hex shape left on them.  I often commented that I spent more time under that old '79 Chevvy than I did driving it.  I will say that if you could afford to keep gas in the tank, it was a worker prior to total disintegration.
> 
> Charlie V.
> 
> 
> 
>> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 19:53:52 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Can you hear me now? Rust
>>
>> Charlie,  about 6 years or so ago the rear end on my 89 GMC went out.  I 
>> bought a newer complete rear end from a salvage yard and swapped it out. 
>> Now road salt is not a major issue here although they are starting to use 
>> liquid potassium chloride anytime they think there might be ice, but still 
>> it's not a problem like you have up north.  However, when I pulled the rear 
>> end out of that truck, out of the 8 nuts on the U-bolts holding the axle in, 
>> 5 of them broke the bolt.  The bolts were rusted down to smaller than a #2 
>> pencil.  The problem was the way the bracket is made.  It sits up under the 
>> axle like a cup turned up and any dirt and salt it encounters sits in the 
>> cup right around the U bolt threads.   I know that must be a bad problem up 
>> your way.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Can you hear me now? Rust
>>
>>
>>> Wait a while longer, Cecil.  You are only seeing the beginning.  On the 
>>> other hand, the truck in the pictures had a lifetime mileage of 76,000. 
>>> Maybe that was too much?? It was sold new with Rusty Jones rust proofing. 
>>> Under body and frame were sprayed numerous times with oil and grease mix. 
>>> Exhaust manifolds replaced three times due to rust out.  Oil pan once. 
>>> Gas tank once.  This is the only vehicle I ever owned that would spray 
>>> it's own windshield as it was driven on a wet road, even without the plow 
>>> mounted.  Great aerodynamics. It also constantly sprayed its own underside 
>>> with road salt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://images53.fotki.com/v432/filexhfX/5f057/9/1608999/8287354/newlook.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> http://images53.fotki.com/v443/fileX5N7/5f057/9/1608999/8287354/raked.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> http://images17.fotki.com/v522/fileDMhW/5f057/9/1608999/8287354/chevvyrust.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:37:43 -0600
>>>> From: crbearden at copper.net
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Can you hear me now?
>>>>
>>>> I think most everyone remembers the 74 GMC fire truck that I drove from
>>>> Mt Holley NJ to OKlahoma City.  When we left all the sires lights etc
>>>> worked.  The truck only had 5000 miles on it when we left.  When we
>>>> arrived, the head and tailights and turn signals worked, but the rest of
>>>> the stuff that I wanted to show off with in the next parade would no
>>>> work.  The relay bank was coroded and rusted because of the salt we
>>>> encountered on the PennTurnpike during that snowstorm..  A rural fire
>>>> dept asked me a few years ago to buy all the lights and I should have
>>>> sold it..  In fact I should have sold them the entire truck.  Where I
>>>> set my boot heel while driving is a 1/2 inch tall corroded area from the
>>>> salt on my boots.  The frame is covered in fine powdered rust that will
>>>> burn just like salt when it gets in your eyes working under it...
>>>>
>>>> If I could just get somehting done around here, I might get it going
>>>> again...
>>>>
>>>> I can only imagine what happens to electronics when they get exposed to
>>>> the salt in the NOrtheast..
>>>>
>>>
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