[AT] OT was runaway cars/now "electronic steering"

[Cecil Bearden]

that $225/ton scrap price a couple of years back went a long ways toward 
  removing a lot of parts tractors from the market..

Cecil in OKla

charliehill wrote:
> Yep and for those of us that can no longer stay in the race for the newest 
> and best, we'll have to try to piece together the very old stuff that can be 
> fixed with bailing wire, pliers and files.   That is until the gov't comes 
> along with another cash for clunkers scheme to get the old stuff off the 
> market and force us to buy the new stuff.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT was runaway cars/now "electronic steering"
> 
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT was runaway cars/now "electronic steering"
>>
>>
>>> John, a brand new Vette with a 366 engine and 400 HP will get real close
>>> to
>>> 30 mpg highway.  I'm fond of the cars we had back then but we only 
>>> thought
>>> they were fast.  The new cars out now, and not just the high performance
>>> stuff, will leave a lot of them in the dust.  Same basic engine designs
>>> but
>>> improved by computers and managed by computers.  The only problem is
>>> fixing
>>> them in the future when the computer fails and the parts aren't available
>>> or
>>> affordable.
>> Charlie, that is exactly the complaint I have on the complex newer 
>> machinery
>> and vehicles. They are truly superior when new but a few years down the 
>> road
>> when wear and tear, deterioration due to weather and heat set in, how well
>> are the computers going to work? And how possible or costly will the 
>> repairs
>> be?
>> I look at the new combines and tractors where everything is controlled by
>> wires instead of direct mechanical connections and wonder the same thing.
>> I had a friend with an air drill problem a couple of years ago. Numerous
>> service technician trips, computer replacements and several valuable days
>> lost at planting time. The problem............ a pinched wire in one of 
>> the
>> harnesses that would intermittently lose contact when turning the tractor.
>> Easy to fix but an absolute nightmare to find. Its fine as long as you are
>> replacing that vehicle or machinery every few years before it gets old and
>> needing service but I can't justify that expense for my operation. I'd say
>> we are more than ever approaching the "throw away society" where it 
>> doesn't
>> pay to fix anything, just throw it away (or recycle) and replace it with a
>> new one.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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