[AT] gasoline

[Dave Rotigel]

On Dec 30, 2010, at 7:47 PM, dglass wrote:

> I think I would believe the petroleum industry before I would believe 
> this guy.
yes.
> Does he work for the government?
LIKely, at least because of the welfare program for the "E" stuff.
>  The government does pay 
> bloggers to fabricate their side of a story when the facts don't support 
> it.
YES.
>   I think I would still buy gas without ethanol if I could get it.
CERTAINLY HAVE THAT S#!T RIGHT!
	Dave
PS, Gene, Subsities/welfare, like S#!T rolls DOWNHILL!
PPS, Will a 1954 M-F run on 100% ethanol? (Still tractor related!)

> 
> On 12/30/2010 7:24 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> A set of "facts" provided by the Renewable Fuel Institute? Now there is an UNBIASED group FOR SURE! The studies that show ethanol is worth anything positive come from GOVERNMENT funded/supported institutions.
>> 	Dave
>> PS, Sure you can trust the government--just ask an Indian!
>> PPS, "Tax insentatives" are simply taxes that the government decides not to collect. They are MUCH different that government 		subsidies/welfare!
>> PPPS, Will a 1952 Farmall start/run on 100% ethanol? (See, all this IS tractor related!)
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Jim&  Lyn Evans wrote:
>> 
>>> Read this.
>>> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/exchange/entry/answering-ethanol-attacks/
>>> 
>>> Yes, the facts to speak for themselves.
>>> 
>>> Also, in the last 30 years, the oil industry has received over 130 billion
>>> dollars in tax incentives.  Renewable fuels received $11 billion in that
>>> same period.
>>> 
>>> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pages/ethanol-facts-economy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of D8RMAN at aol.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:20 PM
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] gasoline
>>> 
>>> Well I guess some will never know the truth either because they are not
>>> smart enough to understand it or they have an agenda. The facts speak for
>>> themselves.  Willard Smith, Yakima, WA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 12/29/2010 8:15:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>> skoullar at ix.netcom.com writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BS
>>> 
>>> Landen Schooler
>>> (Iowa corn&  soybean  farmer)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my tractor, in my cornfield.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: D8RMAN at aol.com
>>> Sender:  at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:59:31
>>> To:<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Reply-To: Antique tractor  email discussion group
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re:  [AT] gasoline
>>> 
>>> Using corn to make ethanol also raises our food costs.  Remember supply and
>>> 
>>> demand from business 101. Willard Smith, Yakima,  WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 12/29/2010 7:51:08 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
>>> rotigel at me.com writes:
>>> 
>>> Kinda  makes you wonder why  we don't drill for our own oil instead of
>>> putting the  hard working  US farmers on a tax subsidized welfare program
>>> called
>>> "ethanol"   which simply lowers everyone's mpg's!
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Dec 28,  2010, at  5:29 PM, Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all how about some gas   costs state side. Here it just hit $3.19 was
>>> $3.09
>>>> sunday. All  grades  now have at least 10% ethnol in it.
>>>> R Fink