[AT] Yellow Farmall now cold starting

[Rupert]

	Something else to think about. Many of the newer tractors that used 90 
wt gear oil have a live power take offs. The Cockshutt 30 and 40 and 
1850 are among that group. The cold gear oil in the PTO can make it very 
difficult to turn the engine over. We warmed the gear case with a fire 
pot on the 30 and 40 as we didn't have electricity at the time. The 1850 
had block heaters since we had power when we got the tractor. 3 hours of 
run time on the block heater with the tractor outside was lots to start 
it if the batteries were good.

Rupert

On 12/31/2010 5:32 PM, mpnc282 at juno.com wrote:
> Thanks for the info guys, I will play with it to see how long I need to keep it plugged in to start easily. My tractor has a single 12V battery, that doesn't exactly spin the engine with gusto. When its cold it goes even slower, fortunately it's a pretty good runner. I'm not sure how big the heater is or for that matter what type it is, whatever came from the factory. Mike M
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Ralph Goff<alfg at sasktel.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Yellow Farmall now cold starting
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:34:41 -0600
>
> On 12/31/2010 2:42 PM, mpnc282 at juno.com wrote:
>> On a related note, I have a question for those with diesel tractors. I have a MF 255 with a Perkins diesel. The previous owner told me it is cold blooded and needs to be plugged in below 40 degrees. I've yet to start it this winter, and was wondering how long I need to plug it in for. I'm sure all tractors are a little different, but a ballpark would be nice. Any thoughts? Thanks, Mike M
>>
> Mike, your 255 is probably a close relative of my old Super 90 Massey.
> Mine has the 300 cubic inch Perkins diesel. Its about 47 years old and
> who knows how many hours the previous owners put on before it came to
> this farm. Its been a very good engine. Originally these tractors had a
> dual battery (two six volts) starting system but a previous owner
> changed over to a single 12 volt battery. While it is usually adequate
> down to 40 degrees or so, it makes a big difference if I hook up the
> battery booster to give just a little extra cranking power. But it does
> simplify life to just go with a single battery so I have not changed it.
> If the weather is cool I will plug in the 1500 watt block heater
> (external circulating type) for 20 minutes or so and thats all it takes
> to start . In our cold Sask. winters I will give it a couple of hours
> (parked indoors) of heating before starting. It might need less but I
> figure a little extra heating will never harm the engine.
> How much plug in time you need also  depends what capacity block heater
> you have. Obviously a 1500 watt will heat up much quicker than one half
> that size.
> Of course all tractors vary. My brother's 1085 Massey, with a similar
> Perkins diesel has the dual batteries but still needs a shot of ether on
> cool mornings sometimes in fall. In winter we do not even consider
> starting one of these diesels without pre-heating with the coolant
> heater. Better for the engine, better for the operator.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
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