[AT] computers OT

[rfinksr]

Hey thanks to everyone for there response. I am 70 and had a new computer 
from HP new flat screen new printer scanner. After 15 hours with India 
getting problems worked out i think. I down loaded from my camera one day 
and came in next day to do the same. Got a window that program does not 
exist.Called India again they took over my computer done go back when done i 
had lost every thing i had installed Thunderbird photos virus scan. That was 
the last straw got hold of return section and sent every thing back left 
here 29 November. And they never did get the printer scanner working. So i 
am back on my old one with XP. As soon as i can find a XP disk i have a old 
gateway that i will put the money in to up grade it to XP it is in a shop at 
this time getting the up grades. I think win 7 is win 98[crash] with a few 
bugs put in.
R Fink



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] computers OT


> I've also noticed that Phil. But I think it just has to do with my
> getting "up" in age!
> Dave
>
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:34 PM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:
>
>> Yes, Mike, it "can be done" but you do lose performance somewhat.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> --- mikesloane at verizon.net wrote:
>>
>> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [AT] computers OT
>> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:35:55 -0500
>>
>> I tend to disagree with a couple of Phil's comments: I moved 4 older
>> PC's from XP to 7 with minimal problems (mostly, as mentioned, sound
>> and
>> video cards that didn't have new drivers). But I downloaded and ran
>> the
>> free "upgrade adviser" from MS first, and that application told me
>> exactly which items would be a problem and to get new drivers , etc.
>> before trying to install 7. It also told me NOT to do an "upgrade" but
>> to do a "custom" install (I have no idea what the difference is). None
>> of the four machines have more than one gig of RAM (the minimum needed
>> for Windows 7), and they run just fine, if a little more slowly than
>> under XP. Since I wouldn't even dream of using Norton on any
>> computer I
>> own, conflicts aren't a problem. I do use MS Security Essentials, and
>> have not had a single problem. I also disable the software firewall
>> and
>> use the firewall in my wired/wireless router.
>>
>> The upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 was very simple, although it
>> seem to
>> take hours.
>>
>> My biggest gripe with Windows 7 is the difficulty in setting up
>> network
>> file sharing if you don't want to be bothered with their "homegroup"
>> arrangement, which limits file sharing to just a few folders.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 12/9/2010 12:41 PM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:
>>> Most of the systems I work on here at Acer/eMachines/Gateway now have
>>> Win7. If you want to upgrade I suggest you get a full copy of Win7
>>> and skip the upgrade disc. The upgrade has issues with some programs
>>> and will not run successfully until those programs are removed.
>>> Norton Antivirus is one big one. I know the upgrade is cheaper, but
>>> it will be a far sell painful experience if you start with the full
>>> package and a clean hard drive. One additional thing, the upgrade
>>> will not work with a Xp system, only Vista. Read the upgrade box
>>> carefully before buying, a lot of places will not accept any open
>>> software as a return. I like Win7 personally. It is nowhere near as
>>> buggy as Vista was in it's initial rollout. It just seems to work.
>>> Another tip, if your sustem has less than 2Gb of RAM you really
>>> should upgrade to at least 2Gb, more than 3Gb or so will not be
>>> recognized unless you go to the 64-bit version. If you go with the
>>> 64-bit version, you should have at least 3Gb and 4Gb would be better
>>> for best performance (More's law does apply here). On the 1Tb hard
>>> drives, we have been having quite a lot of drive failures (bad
>>> sectors) on the 750Gb and up hard drives, regardless of brand. We get
>>> Seagate, Western Digital and Hitachi, mostly. All three seem to have
>>> problems. Don't be surprised if your system chokes and pukes after a
>>> few weeks to a few months. I would recommend a DVD or CD to store
>>> backups, NOT an external hard drive. Too much possibility of data
>>> loss with the HDDs.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
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