[AT] computers OT

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Thu Dec 9 12:06:55 PST 2010


I've also noticed that Phil. But I think it just has to do with my  
getting "up" in age!
	Dave

On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:34 PM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:

> Yes, Mike, it "can be done" but you do lose performance somewhat.
>
> Phil
>
> --- mikesloane at verizon.net wrote:
>
> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
> Subject: Re: [AT] computers OT
> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:35:55 -0500
>
> I tend to disagree with a couple of Phil's comments: I moved 4 older
> PC's from XP to 7 with minimal problems (mostly, as mentioned, sound  
> and
> video cards that didn't have new drivers). But I downloaded and ran  
> the
> free "upgrade adviser" from MS first, and that application told me
> exactly which items would be a problem and to get new drivers , etc.
> before trying to install 7. It also told me NOT to do an "upgrade" but
> to do a "custom" install (I have no idea what the difference is). None
> of the four machines have more than one gig of RAM (the minimum needed
> for Windows 7), and they run just fine, if a little more slowly than
> under XP. Since I wouldn't even dream of using Norton on any  
> computer I
> own, conflicts aren't a problem. I do use MS Security Essentials, and
> have not had a single problem. I also disable the software firewall  
> and
> use the firewall in my wired/wireless router.
>
> The upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 was very simple, although it  
> seem to
> take hours.
>
> My biggest gripe with Windows 7 is the difficulty in setting up  
> network
> file sharing if you don't want to be bothered with their "homegroup"
> arrangement, which limits file sharing to just a few folders.
>
> Mike
>
> On 12/9/2010 12:41 PM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:
>> Most of the systems I work on here at Acer/eMachines/Gateway now have
>> Win7. If you want to upgrade I suggest you get a full copy of Win7
>> and skip the upgrade disc. The upgrade has issues with some programs
>> and will not run successfully until those programs are removed.
>> Norton Antivirus is one big one. I know the upgrade is cheaper, but
>> it will be a far sell painful experience if you start with the full
>> package and a clean hard drive. One additional thing, the upgrade
>> will not work with a Xp system, only Vista. Read the upgrade box
>> carefully before buying, a lot of places will not accept any open
>> software as a return. I like Win7 personally. It is nowhere near as
>> buggy as Vista was in it's initial rollout. It just seems to work.
>> Another tip, if your sustem has less than 2Gb of RAM you really
>> should upgrade to at least 2Gb, more than 3Gb or so will not be
>> recognized unless you go to the 64-bit version. If you go with the
>> 64-bit version, you should have at least 3Gb and 4Gb would be better
>> for best performance (More's law does apply here). On the 1Tb hard
>> drives, we have been having quite a lot of drive failures (bad
>> sectors) on the 750Gb and up hard drives, regardless of brand. We get
>> Seagate, Western Digital and Hitachi, mostly. All three seem to have
>> problems. Don't be surprised if your system chokes and pukes after a
>> few weeks to a few months. I would recommend a DVD or CD to store
>> backups, NOT an external hard drive. Too much possibility of data
>> loss with the HDDs.
>>
>> Phil
>>
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