[AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has itallwhen his 60th birthday is coming.

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Aug 19 18:01:03 PDT 2010


Well the words Allis  Chalmers are almost never mentioned unless Herb Metz 
has a question about something and thank goodness he occasionally does.

Thanks Al.

Charlie

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From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:16 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho	hasitallwhenhis 60th birthday is coming.

> Charlie I agree and I have enjoyed this and other stories of yours
> immensely.  I guess it wouldn't hurt for all of us to try to put in a 
> little
> more tractor content--seems like when something does come through it's 
> about
> a bless-ed ford or ferguson!  :)
>
> Al
>
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> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:22 AM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has 
> itall
> when his 60th birthday is coming.
>
>> charlie hill wrote:
>>> For the record,  If you notice the message below is not complete.  That
>>> is
>>> because I wrote it to blow off a little steam and intended to delete it.
>>> This #$%^$%^^ mail program that Windows 7 uses is the biggest piece of
>>> junk
>>> Microsoft ever created.  I tried to delete the message and it put it
>>> in my drafts folder.  When I tried to delete it from the drafts folder 
>>> it
>>> sent it.
>>>
>>> I guess it's just as well it got sent anyway.  I hope it didn't offend
>>> anyone but there are a handful of us that try to keep the old original
>>> ATIS
>>> list alive.
>>> It's hard to do when no one ever asks a tractor question.  If Spencer or
>>> those of you in the inner circle are opposed to an off topic thread 
>>> here,
>>> why don't
>>> you talk about it around the camp fire at Portland and decide if you 
>>> want
>>> this list to continue.  I like to hear from my friend Mattias.   I
>>> appreciate him
>>> posting the link to that video and don't apologize for starting an off
>>> topic
>>> dynamite conversation on a nearly dead list.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
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>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:09 AM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has
>>> itall
>>> when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>
>>>
>>>> With all due respect to my good list friends it seems some of you think
>>>> we
>>>> are doing something wrong by having an off topic discussion.  This 
>>>> list,
>>>> the
>>>> old original list, has been mainly
>>>> an off topic list for years.  It became so when different brands of
>>>> tractors
>>>> were segregated away from the main list.   I'd like to remind you that
>>>> just
>>>> a few days ago there was almost no traffic on this list.  In fact it
>>>> sometimes goes a few days at a time without any postings at all.  It
>>>> seems
>>>> to me that when someone does speak up and start a conversation that 
>>>> some
>>>> of
>>>> you are complaining or at least making light of the off topic content.
>>>> Gene,   I don't use the new lists.  When I've tried, at first, I was
>>>> unable
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:10 AM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who
>>>> hasitallwhen his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So could I, Gene.  It's one of those things where once you get us
>>>>> started,
>>>>> this thread could go on until next week.  You guys at Portland will
>>>>> spend
>>>>> half of every night making shim stock and trading stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I could join you at Portland, but I have to draw the line
>>>>> somewhere, and I still have three major trips planned for this fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Gene Dotson <gdotsly at watchtv.net>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:53
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who 
>>>>> has
>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Larry;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This sounds like a good topic for the new
>>>>>> list on the "Round the Pot
>>>>>> Belly Stove" forum. I could tell a couple of my own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.atis.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?14-round-the-pot-
>>>>>> bellied-stove
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>>>> who has
>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!  Good story, Mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I may paraphrase a fairly recent SNL skit -- "Please don't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> make me tell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a dynamite story.  You really don't want me to tell a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> dynamite story."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "No one's asking you to tell a dynamite story."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME TELL A DYNAMITE STORY."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Mark Greer <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 21:23
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> friend who has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've probably told this here before, but my neighbor up the
>>>>>>>> street tells a
>>>>>>>> story about dynamite that would NEVER happen today. Lawrence is
>>>>>>>> 70-something
>>>>>>>> and has farmed all his life. When he was in high school his
>>>>>>>> father called in
>>>>>>>> to town and ordered a case of dynamite from the local hardware
>>>>>>>> to blast some
>>>>>>>> stumps out with. Larry G knows who they are (Johnson's in
>>>>>>>> Orrville).
>>>>>>>> Lawrence walked over to the hardware after school and picked up
>>>>>>>> the case of
>>>>>>>> dynamite and then got on the school bus and took it home. If you
>>>>>>>> tried that
>>>>>>>> today you'd be on the national news in no time flat.
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>>>>>> who has
>>>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So much for the land of the free.  Can you imagine what
>>>>>>>> would happen if we
>>>>>>>> did that in the US these days?  Growing up I had a friend
>>>>>>>> who's grandmother
>>>>>>>> gave him a case of dynamite for Christmas every
>>>>>>>> year.   He rode around the
>>>>>>>> country setting off dynamite like most of us did fire
>>>>>>>> crackers.   Don't mean
>>>>>>>> to be political by this but things sure have changed more here
>>>>>>>> than they
>>>>>>>> apparently have in other places.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>> I personally like the off topic posts, as there is a wealth of knowledge
>> within the list members.   I have a lot of old tractors and lets get
>> real.  There are not a lot of really high tech or rocket scientist
>> problems that erupt with them.  The most complicated thing is the
>> hydraulics and those problems are usually a leak or not leaking as it
>> should.  These things wre made simple so they would last 4 lifetimes.
>> Right now I am trying to work with some fairly sophisticated surveying
>> equipment tat is less than 10 years old, but cannot get the data out of
>> it because the medias have changed in the last few years so that when my
>> old computer died, I now have no way of inputting the data into the
>> computer to plot it on autocad.  Also my auto cad program is now
>> obsolete (2004) so I cannot call anyone and get any tech assistance.
>> Their solution is to upgrade for $5000  My Nikon 2006 total station has
>> been bought out by Trimble and to get any tech assistance, I have to
>> send Trimble $1000 each year. only to be referred to a tech support
>> grunt in India who learned how to speak english by a correspondence
>> course. My Topcon GPS (2004) survey system is obsolete and the salesman
>> who knew how to figure out the problem left the company to go to
>> Florida.  He has not been replaced.
>>
>> At least the guys on this list have done enough varied occupations that
>> they can relate to what I am talking about and can offer suggestions.  I
>> also believe that just because we have the technology to ad a bunch of
>> bells and whistles, it doesn't mean we should.
>>
>> I don't like the format of those other types of lists, I like this one.
>> I read it religiously.  I seldom read a newspaper, but I open up my
>> email list several times a day.
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>> I personally enjoyed the dynamite story.   And I, too,  think the
>> country has changed way way too much
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