[AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho has itall when his 60th birthday is coming.

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Thu Aug 19 08:22:29 PDT 2010


charlie hill wrote:
> For the record,  If you notice the message below is not complete.  That is 
> because I wrote it to blow off a little steam and intended to delete it.
> This #$%^$%^^ mail program that Windows 7 uses is the biggest piece of junk 
> Microsoft ever created.  I tried to delete the message and it put it
> in my drafts folder.  When I tried to delete it from the drafts folder it 
> sent it.
>
> I guess it's just as well it got sent anyway.  I hope it didn't offend 
> anyone but there are a handful of us that try to keep the old original ATIS 
> list alive.
> It's hard to do when no one ever asks a tractor question.  If Spencer or 
> those of you in the inner circle are opposed to an off topic thread here, 
> why don't
> you talk about it around the camp fire at Portland and decide if you want 
> this list to continue.  I like to hear from my friend Mattias.   I 
> appreciate him
> posting the link to that video and don't apologize for starting an off topic 
> dynamite conversation on a nearly dead list.
>
> Charlie
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:09 AM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friendwho	has	itall 
> when his 60th birthday is coming.
>
>   
>> With all due respect to my good list friends it seems some of you think we
>> are doing something wrong by having an off topic discussion.  This list, 
>> the
>> old original list, has been mainly
>> an off topic list for years.  It became so when different brands of 
>> tractors
>> were segregated away from the main list.   I'd like to remind you that 
>> just
>> a few days ago there was almost no traffic on this list.  In fact it
>> sometimes goes a few days at a time without any postings at all.  It seems
>> to me that when someone does speak up and start a conversation that some 
>> of
>> you are complaining or at least making light of the off topic content.
>> Gene,   I don't use the new lists.  When I've tried, at first, I was 
>> unable
>> to
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:10 AM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who
>> hasitallwhen his 60th birthday is coming.
>>
>>     
>>> So could I, Gene.  It's one of those things where once you get us 
>>> started,
>>> this thread could go on until next week.  You guys at Portland will spend
>>> half of every night making shim stock and trading stories.
>>>
>>> I wish I could join you at Portland, but I have to draw the line
>>> somewhere, and I still have three major trips planned for this fall.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Gene Dotson <gdotsly at watchtv.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:53
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend who has
>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>     Larry;
>>>>
>>>>     This sounds like a good topic for the new
>>>> list on the "Round the Pot
>>>> Belly Stove" forum. I could tell a couple of my own.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atis.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?14-round-the-pot-
>>>> bellied-stove
>>>>
>>>>                 Gene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>> who has
>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> LOL!  Good story, Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I may paraphrase a fairly recent SNL skit -- "Please don't
>>>>>           
>>>> make me tell
>>>>         
>>>>> a dynamite story.  You really don't want me to tell a
>>>>>           
>>>> dynamite story."
>>>>         
>>>>> "No one's asking you to tell a dynamite story."
>>>>>
>>>>> "PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME TELL A DYNAMITE STORY."
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Mark Greer <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 21:23
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for
>>>>>           
>>>> friend who has
>>>>         
>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>           
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>         
>>>>>> I've probably told this here before, but my neighbor up the
>>>>>> street tells a
>>>>>> story about dynamite that would NEVER happen today. Lawrence is
>>>>>> 70-something
>>>>>> and has farmed all his life. When he was in high school his
>>>>>> father called in
>>>>>> to town and ordered a case of dynamite from the local hardware
>>>>>> to blast some
>>>>>> stumps out with. Larry G knows who they are (Johnson's in
>>>>>> Orrville).
>>>>>> Lawrence walked over to the hardware after school and picked up
>>>>>> the case of
>>>>>> dynamite and then got on the school bus and took it home. If you
>>>>>> tried that
>>>>>> today you'd be on the national news in no time flat.
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT if you ever wondered what to do for friend
>>>>>> who has
>>>>>> itall when his 60th birthday is coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So much for the land of the free.  Can you imagine what
>>>>>> would happen if we
>>>>>> did that in the US these days?  Growing up I had a friend
>>>>>> who's grandmother
>>>>>> gave him a case of dynamite for Christmas every
>>>>>> year.   He rode around the
>>>>>> country setting off dynamite like most of us did fire
>>>>>> crackers.   Don't mean
>>>>>> to be political by this but things sure have changed more here
>>>>>> than they
>>>>>> apparently have in other places.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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I personally like the off topic posts, as there is a wealth of knowledge 
within the list members.   I have a lot of old tractors and lets get 
real.  There are not a lot of really high tech or rocket scientist 
problems that erupt with them.  The most complicated thing is the 
hydraulics and those problems are usually a leak or not leaking as it 
should.  These things wre made simple so they would last 4 lifetimes.  
Right now I am trying to work with some fairly sophisticated surveying 
equipment tat is less than 10 years old, but cannot get the data out of 
it because the medias have changed in the last few years so that when my 
old computer died, I now have no way of inputting the data into the 
computer to plot it on autocad.  Also my auto cad program is now 
obsolete (2004) so I cannot call anyone and get any tech assistance.  
Their solution is to upgrade for $5000  My Nikon 2006 total station has 
been bought out by Trimble and to get any tech assistance, I have to 
send Trimble $1000 each year. only to be referred to a tech support 
grunt in India who learned how to speak english by a correspondence 
course. My Topcon GPS (2004) survey system is obsolete and the salesman 
who knew how to figure out the problem left the company to go to 
Florida.  He has not been replaced.

At least the guys on this list have done enough varied occupations that 
they can relate to what I am talking about and can offer suggestions.  I 
also believe that just because we have the technology to ad a bunch of 
bells and whistles, it doesn't mean we should.

I don't like the format of those other types of lists, I like this one.  
I read it religiously.  I seldom read a newspaper, but I open up my 
email list several times a day.

Cecil in OKla

I personally enjoyed the dynamite story.   And I, too,  think the 
country has changed way way too much



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