[AT] What to do..

Fri Apr 30 05:43:21 PDT 2010

I just hope that none of you are put in ther situation I am in.  If so, find 
a nursing home and forget about making the decision.
Cecil in OKla
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> Cecil,
>
> I have sold a few things in life, as I am sure most of us have.  I have
> learned never to promise to hold something for someone, because I did
> when I was younger, I lost a sale because of a big talker.  I learned
> the hard way, the first one with the cash in hand is the buyer.  I
> understand sometimes circumstances can get in the way, but that really
> isn't the sellers problem.  The person selling the item wants their
> money and to be done with having to put up with 15 phone calls a day,
> and 14.5 of the calls are from dreamers.  I have had people call and act
> real serious about buying something and then never show up.  I have had
> people say to me "I really wanted to buy that _____, but you sold it", I
> then tell them, you should have been here with the money than.  I don't
> know a persons true intention, until I see the cash.
>
> I have had people want me to finance the item for them, I just smile and
> tell them I am not a bank.  One that really sticks in my mind, back in
> the 80's, I was selling a Jeep CJ5 that I had.  I parked in the parking
> lot of my dad's office in town, with a sign in it.  There is a bank
> across the street from the office.  There was a girl that worked at the
> bank, she wanted to by the Jeep.  She came over on a Friday afternoon
> after work to look at it. She wanted to test drive it, OK Fine, but I am
> riding along, I was already getting a bad vibe about this situation.  We
> got back to the office, she asked if she could have it for the weekend.
> Uhhh NO!!  Then she asked if she could make payments to me for the Jeep.
> Uhhh NO again.  I said you work at the bank, get a loan from them.  She
> told me they wouldn't give her a loan.  I told her that I think we were
> done.  She was ticked off at me, because I told her no twice.  I walked
> away thinking to myself, either I look like a big fool, or Santa Claus.
>
> I am up front with people when they call or come looking; I tell them
> the first person with the money is the buyer.  If you need time to get
> the money, I need 25% up front, it is not refundable, and they have 7
> day to come up with the rest of the money.  I have had a few takers on
> giving a deposit.  I figure if a person is serious about buying, putting
> down a deposit should not be a problem.  It scares the dreamers and
> talkers away.  I will be reasonable, if someone want to think about it
> overnight, OK, but I need to know in the morning what your intentions
> are.  But, I will never say that someone else called and wants to look
> at it, and make the other person wait.  I have lost out on buying
> things, because I was not able to get somewhere to make the deal happen,
> that's life.  If I have to drive more than 25 miles, I call first to
> make sure someone is home and if they still have what I want.
>
> Lou
>
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:22 AM
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>
> Louis wrote:
>> Take the money and buy it.  If the other person really wanted it bad,
>> they would have grabbed it now instead of waiting till Saturday. Cash
>> talks and bullcrap walks.
>>
>> Lou
>>
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>>
>> OK, here's the update.  I just spoke to the lady and as I suspected,
>> she has been innundated with phone calls.  The first caller won't be
>> there until Saturday, but she welcomed me to come over and look at it
>> tomorrow anyway.  I'm going to take her up on that offer.  Would it be
>
>> wrong for me to take a pocket full of hundreds along and buy it first?
>>
>> Enjoy, Joe
>>
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> Lou:
> Your comment struck a nerve!
> I might have agreed with you a year ago, but  In my situation, I had a
> great deal on a Case 1170 w/loader about 60 miles from here.  I talked
> to the guy and explained my situation that I could not get anyone to
> stay with my invalid Father until the next day.  We also discussed my
> designing a /geothermal heat system for his house he was remodeling.  I
> called the next day as I was leaving with my truck and trailer and he
> said that a guy had come out about 8 that night and bought it.  He had
> agreed to hold it for me.
> Also lost a good buy on a Belarus in Kansas I had won on Ebay.  Was
> going to pay at time of pickup.  Someone came from Eastern OK a day
> earlier, & told the seller they were me.  I was out a 300 mile trip, as
> I had to wait 2 days until I could get someone to stay with my Dad.  I
> had been awarded this tractor on Ebay.   Sure glad I did not  use Paypal
>
> to pay for it.    Since the SOB in Eastern OK paid cash I could not
> trace him down...  Ebay could care less.  I also had bought a tractor
> just 2 miles west of here, was in AN ESTATE BEING HANDLED BY   the
> daughter.  I gave her a check for $1500 for a 2135 MF w/shuttle, did not
>
> have that much cash on me.  She was going to go by the bank and cash
> it.  Money was in the account.  She called the next morning to tell me
> that the bank wold not cash the check in the drive thru and she had a
> buyer for the $1750 asking price with cash.  Did I want my check or  to
> tear it up??  I checked with the teller supervisor at the bank and no
> one had presented a check of mine and  if they had it would have been
> cashed...
> I bought a cab & chassis truck and was waiting on a clear title and keys
>
> from the seller before I gave him the money..  A "friend" (also is a
> nazarene minister now running for governor) came by and offered $1 more
> than the price and paid cash and got the truck.  The guy's son had over
> $10K of my equipment !!!
>
> My point is this, If you make a deal over the phone, in person, or
> wherever, stick to your word!  If you lose everything, all you have left
>
> is your name.  If it is good, you can start over.
>
> I know I have a bad attitude toward this because I have been saddled
> with taking care of my Dad due to his stupid decision to have a knee
> replaced too soon after the other one.  Now, my wife & I cannot enjoy
> retirement for having to take care of him and I have to do consulting
> work and machinery restoration and haying in order to pay for the $40k
> it costs to have someone stay with him, or lose everything I have worked
>
> for over the last 40 years...
>
> Yeah. Cash Talks. Bulls*@t walks.  So do a##holes!!
> Cecil in OKla
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