[AT] What to do..

[Will Powell]

Phil, 

I was just thinking that I have learned through this thread that I should call before I leave even if the deal is done. Looks like you did just that and still got screwed.... What a low life that seller was, pond scum. 

Regards, 

Will 

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From: "Phil Vorwerk" <pvorwerk at newulmtel.net> 
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:52:18 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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Cecil, I have to agree with you. 

I was in Iowa visiting my in-laws a few years ago, and while reading the 
classifieds I spotted a 65 Impala ragtop. Called, talked to the guy, and 
made the deal on the phone. I had to drive 150 miles out of my way to get 
there. Called him again before we left just to confirm that the car would 
still be available. Drove straight to his place, couldn't get anybody to 
come to the door. Called him on my cell again, and he finally came to the 
door with a real sheepish look on his face. Yup, sold it a half hour before 
I got there. 

I understand the problem with some people committing to buy an item and then 
never showing up, costing the seller other potential sales. If, as a 
seller, you are afraid of that, then DON'T COMMIT TO HOLDING THE ITEM FOR 
SOMEONE. Why is it so out of fashion to have some ethics? 

As a businessman I've had many situations where I have said "well, this is 
going to cost us some money, but it is the right thing to do." Some people 
eat well, some people sleep well. I'd rather sleep well. 

Phil 
Rainy Courtland, MN 

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:22 AM 
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Louis wrote: 
> Take the money and buy it. If the other person really wanted it bad, 
> they would have grabbed it now instead of waiting till Saturday. Cash 
> talks and bullcrap walks. 
> 
> Lou 
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> 
> OK, here's the update. I just spoke to the lady and as I suspected, 
> she has been innundated with phone calls. The first caller won't be 
> there until Saturday, but she welcomed me to come over and look at it 
> tomorrow anyway. I'm going to take her up on that offer. Would it be 
> wrong for me to take a pocket full of hundreds along and buy it first? 
> 
> Enjoy, Joe 
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Lou: 
Your comment struck a nerve! 
I might have agreed with you a year ago, but In my situation, I had a 
great deal on a Case 1170 w/loader about 60 miles from here. I talked 
to the guy and explained my situation that I could not get anyone to 
stay with my invalid Father until the next day. We also discussed my 
designing a /geothermal heat system for his house he was remodeling. I 
called the next day as I was leaving with my truck and trailer and he 
said that a guy had come out about 8 that night and bought it. He had 
agreed to hold it for me. 
Also lost a good buy on a Belarus in Kansas I had won on Ebay. Was 
going to pay at time of pickup. Someone came from Eastern OK a day 
earlier, & told the seller they were me. I was out a 300 mile trip, as 
I had to wait 2 days until I could get someone to stay with my Dad. I 
had been awarded this tractor on Ebay. Sure glad I did not use Paypal 
to pay for it. Since the SOB in Eastern OK paid cash I could not 
trace him down... Ebay could care less. I also had bought a tractor 
just 2 miles west of here, was in AN ESTATE BEING HANDLED BY the 
daughter. I gave her a check for $1500 for a 2135 MF w/shuttle, did not 
have that much cash on me. She was going to go by the bank and cash 
it. Money was in the account. She called the next morning to tell me 
that the bank wold not cash the check in the drive thru and she had a 
buyer for the $1750 asking price with cash. Did I want my check or to 
tear it up?? I checked with the teller supervisor at the bank and no 
one had presented a check of mine and if they had it would have been 
cashed... 
I bought a cab & chassis truck and was waiting on a clear title and keys 
from the seller before I gave him the money.. A "friend" (also is a 
nazarene minister now running for governor) came by and offered $1 more 
than the price and paid cash and got the truck. The guy's son had over 
$10K of my equipment !!! 

My point is this, If you make a deal over the phone, in person, or 
wherever, stick to your word! If you lose everything, all you have left 
is your name. If it is good, you can start over. 

I know I have a bad attitude toward this because I have been saddled 
with taking care of my Dad due to his stupid decision to have a knee 
replaced too soon after the other one. Now, my wife & I cannot enjoy 
retirement for having to take care of him and I have to do consulting 
work and machinery restoration and haying in order to pay for the $40k 
it costs to have someone stay with him, or lose everything I have worked 
for over the last 40 years... 

Yeah. Cash Talks. Bulls*@t walks. So do a##holes!! 
Cecil in OKla 
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