[AT] Demolition

charliehill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Apr 9 09:07:25 PDT 2010 

George,  I agree with you too.  I just wish I could be there, just one time, 
when there was a usable combine for sale for $200.00 or $500.  Most of the 
ones I've found were either beyond repair or NOT FOR SALE or the owner 
thought it was made of gold, silver and titanium.

Some years back I was living in a house with window air conditioners and 
wanting to upgrade to central AC but couldn't afford it.   The military was 
demolishing some base housing units nearby that had 1 or 2 year old Trane 
central units.   The contractor was selling the units for $100 a piece.  By 
the time I found out about it they were all gone,  several were bought by 
friends of mine who lived in nice new houses with central air.  They all 
bought them to put in their shops, garages, etc.  Isn't that the way life 
seems to go?  When you really need something you can't find it.  When you 
don't someone tries to give it to you.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Demolition


> My neighbor had a small Case combine that he used on his small place and 
> his brother-in-laws smaller place which is across the road from our 
> places.  They did a little bit of wheat or oats each year basically to 
> qualify for some farm tax advantage.
>
> Quite a few years ago they stopped growing and harvesting grain completely 
> and another local farmer is using their fields.
>
> The Case combine sat in his barn for several years and he finally sold it 
> to some guys buying it for the combine destruction derby.
>
> I think it's been in at least 3 if not 4 derbies now.
>
> I hear people complaining about good usable combines being used for 
> destruction derbies,  but those people aren't willing to pay anything to 
> buy the old combines.  I doubt my neighbor got more than $200 for his 
> combine as no one wanted it except the combine destruction guys.  If the 
> old combines had some market value greater than their scrap metal value, 
> they probably wouldn't end up in the derbies.
>
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Grant Brians
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:55 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Demolition
>
> This thread struck a chord for me because there is a fallacy in our 
> handling
> of combines in this country. Like other small operations (relatively
> speaking) I could use a functioning small combine. In my case it would be
> used for vegetable seed production. This is a common situation that there
> owould be a need for the small combines to produce vegetable or flower 
> seed.
> If one were to attempt to purchase a new combine today in North America, 
> it
> would NOT be possible to purchase a durable unit for this purpose!
>     The only sources of small combines today are Japan and China. Neither
> are readily available in the US, and the Chinese quality is abysmal. There
> is one Japanese manufacturer of mini-combines for rice which MIGHT 
> possibly
> be adaptable for the purpose, but they are optimized for small paddy rice
> harvest. Also, if these units are built as it appears they are, then they
> are not made to stand up to the abuse that farm machinery usually needs to
> endure here. Also, if either type of machine were actually available in
> distribution here (they are not widely available with any dealer network)
> then there would be the issue of parts availability and price being a
> challenge.
>     Where does this leave the US/Canada farm economy? Excessive reliance 
> on
> foreign produced vegetable/flower seed. Not enough surviving small 
> combines
> in actual annual use to make parts available readily (for units that were
> actually manufactured here in one of our two countries!) Removing a source
> of farm income for small farms from seed production that efficient harvest
> could enable.
>     What is the solution? Well a part of the solution clearly is to make
> sure that there still are some small combines running and available. 
> Another
> part is for small/medium size farmers to seek out contracts with the
> independent seed companies. I recognize that there is also an imbalance in
> combine supply between different parts of the countries as well, with a
> place like coastal California where I am not having many because of 
> minimal
> grain production levels.
>     One statement that was made is that the reason the combines are 
> trashed
> is because they have no value. But they should be perceived as having 
> value.
> It is a little like antique tractors - there are no examples of some
> tractors because there was no one who cared, not because there was no 
> value.
> There is my opinion.
>              Grant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of charliehill
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:37 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Demolition
>
>
> I know those combine demo derbies are all in good fun but I can't stand to
> watch them.  I grew up on a small farm and we could never justify owning a
> combine so we had to give up 1/4 of the crop every year to a custom
> operator.  Everytime I see folks tearing up combines all I can think is 
> that
> some small farmer somewhere needs that combine.  Even if it's worn slam 
> out
> there are some parts on it that some guy needs.
>
> With that said, I know I'm being stupid about it.  If the things had any
> value the farmers wouldn't be tearing them up in the derby.  It's just an
> emotional thing with very little logic behind it.  If those guys gave me 
> the
> combines.  They wouldn't be worth what it cost to haul them to my farm and
> that is exactly why they are tearing them up for fun.  They have no useful
> value other than junk.  I still can't stand to watch it.
>
> No offense meant to you Ralph.  Thanks for posting it.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Waugh" <pwaugh at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Demolition
>
>
>> Ah, for to good old days, just fun, no fences , spectators at their own
>> risk
>> .... love it, looks like the Oliver had some power.
>> Paul-46555
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:51 PM
>> Subject: [AT] Demolition
>>
>>
>>> Nearly forgot to mention that while I was uploading antique tractor 
>>> video
>>> recently I also included some scenes from the local demolition derby 
>>> back
>>> in
>>> the fall of 87. The typical crunching and flattening of various older
>>> cars
>>> is seen but for the first time ever there was a combine event in which a
>>> Massey 510, a Case 1060 and an old Oliver take turns trying to destroy
>>> each
>>> other.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjkPKLjMlqU
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>
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