[AT] Loader Hydraulics

[Bruce Moden]

In 1987 I bought a Long 36, it came supplied with a 4 gpm pump which on that tractor operated the 3 pt hitch as well as other hydraulic attachments.  I outfitted it with a Long backhoe and the equipment supplier (the same one that I bought the tractor from) changed the pump to a 10 gpm pump which was efficient enough to operate the backhoe.  Just some advise, a tractor that small (36 hp) is not strong enough for much backhoe use, the vibration loosened the bolts on the tansmission case so bad that they stripped the threads.
Pharmr

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:


From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
Subject: Re: [AT] Loader Hydraulics
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:20 AM


I would not use anything smaller than a 12 gpm pump.  Some of the old 
4010 Deeres had a 4 gpm pump.  So they had some rather small loader 
cylinders on the early loaders.  I have a 6gpm pump on a farmhand loader 
with 3 in cylinders and it takes forever to raise.  It is good when you 
are positioning things to hook up.  My new Case JX85 has a Rhino loader 
with 3 inch cylinders and it only has a 14gpm pump on the tractor 
hydraulics and it raises the loader very well.  It also has the controls 
plumbed into the main line instead of running off the remotes.

Cecil in OKla

Beal Gleason wrote:
> I have a F 11 Farmhand loader and rigged it with a front mounted pump  
> on a D17 AC. It has rather large cyls. and I used a 20 GPM pump it  
> works fine.
> 
> Farmerbeal
> 
> 
> Beal Gleason
> 4918 East Ave. D
> Lovington, NM 88260
> farmerbeal at aol.com
> 
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 6:10 AM, Mark Greer wrote:
> 
>> I have a Case 430 with a Henry loader on it that originally came off  
>> a Ford
>> of some sort. The tractor's hydraulic pump and plumbing is less than
>> adequate and I'd like to set up a separate pump and divorce the loader
>> hydraulics from the three point hydraulics. I can manage the  
>> mounting to put
>> a crankshaft driven pump out front but what I need to know is how  
>> much pump
>> capacity (what GPM rating) do I need to buy? Anyone here have a  
>> tractor with
>> a similar setup? Anyone here a hydraulics expert?
>> Mark
>>
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