[AT] OT Gasifiers

[charliehill]

For those of you with high speed internet connections here is one of the 
first youtube videos I watched on the subject. 
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=youtube+gasifier&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIE_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=xfjVStyvMcuWlAepg7WcCQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQqwQwAA#
This is a relatively simple setup.
If that link doesn't work search youtube for gasifier stove.  If you hear a 
man at the first of it say "we're making hydrogen here in Jefferson Co." 
you've got the right one.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT Gasifiers


>I was thinking about using this type of technology to burn round bales
> for heating an outside boiler for my home and shop.  I have about 100
> bales of hay that is sold at the cost of baling every year.  It would be
> nice not to run that heat pump in the winter...
>
> Cecil inOKla
>
> charliehill wrote:
>> Steve, that is why I am studying it now.  To see if it's feasible to do 
>> and
>> if so to start making plans for it before I need it.  I shared this with 
>> the
>> list for two reasons; to see if anyone here had any knowledge or direct
>> experience with gasification and to share it with my friends so you all
>> could consider it if you like.
>>
>> I'm not proposing running engines with it necessarily.  There are other 
>> uses
>> such as firing a boiler to turn a steam turbine, etc.  There is a huge 
>> wood
>> engergy plant in my county that does exactly that.   They "burn" waste 
>> wood
>> to produce steam for our industrial park and they are very successful and
>> efficient at it.  I don't know their exact process but I'm pretty sure it 
>> is
>> not just a "burn".  I have all ideas that they are essentially a
>> gasification plant because they have very little stack emissions and 
>> their
>> by product is something that looks very much like bio char and it is 
>> being
>> spread on farm land in the area.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder why I bother.  I tried to share this stuff with you 
>> with
>> good intent and all it get back is na-saying and arguement.  If you don't
>> like the idea just forget about it and move on.  I know a man that used 
>> to
>> make a 6 figure salary selling Encylopedia Britanica.  In the early 80's
>> some of us tried to tell him what was about to happen to his industry. 
>> He
>> refuesed to listen.  About 10 years later they put him out to pasture and
>> without about 90% of the pension he had earned.  Things are changing 
>> rapidly
>> in this country.  If you don't keep your ear to the ground and look for
>> alternatives you might get left behind.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT Gasifiers
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM, charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> The only way I would want use a gasifier to run a car or tractor would 
>>> be
>>> the same as it was used in the war, in an emergency. My thoughts on 
>>> using
>>> gasifiers are just as you mention Mattias, to use some waste biomass to
>>> run
>>> a generator or to more efficiently produce heat.
>>
>>
>> Only problem there, Charlie, is that emergencies always happen
>> suddenly, by definition.  And you can't just "suddenly" develop your
>> own wood gas rig.  Even the crappy ones that barely function take a
>> whole lot of home-shop fiddling to get there.
>>
>> Everything I've always heard about wood gas was quite negative and
>> that's pure engineering, not counting at all the emotional connections
>> to WWII.  It's quite messy, the engine runs terribly if at all, and
>> the gases are extremely corrosive.
>>
>> SO
>>
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