[AT] Estevan Model Engine Show: was Re: Thanks!

Rupert rwenig2 at xplornet.com
Sat Oct 10 19:45:57 PDT 2009


Hello Ralph,
	Are you by chance planning to go to the Estevan Model Engine Show on 
the 17th week end since harvest is at a halt? I plan to be there with my 
hobby foundry stuff.

Rupert

Ralph Goff wrote:
> I've had one of the rivet tools for years. The major machine companies used 
> to sell them with their own name on the side. JD and Versatile come to mind. 
> Mine is just a no-name red one. Broke one of the punch points and had to 
> replace it but thats all. Now I have mostly bolt on sections in the swather 
> and combine knives which are a little easier to repair.
> We won't be wearing out any knife sections here for a while as early winter 
> has brought harvest to a halt last week . Several inches of snow on the 
> ground with daytime highs of 25 if we are lucky. Back roads frozen up rutted 
> and rough. Still 25% of the crop in Sask. to harvest if it ever dries 
> enough. (Maybe next spring).
> 
> Ralph in Sask.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Thanks!
> 
> 
>> I almost think there was one over at the farm but I don't know why.  We had
>> nothing to use it on.  I'll be looking.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Thanks!
>>
>>
>> !!! Charlie, you gotta keep your eyes open for these things in antique
>> shops. The shop owners have no idea what they are and price them very
>> cheaply. The last one I bought looked brand new and only cost me $15.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:11
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Thanks!
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>
>>> You know, we never had and sickle bar mowers or combines
>>> with bean heads,
>>> etc. on our farm. I've seen those spinners before and
>>> never knew exactly
>>> what they were.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>> One of the advantages of the rivet spinner tool is that you
>>> can change
>>>> the section(s) out (in the shop or in the field) without
>>> removing the
>>>> bar from the mower, you don't need a hammer, chisel, special
>>> punch, or
>>>> supporting block - just a box wrench to run the two
>>> tools down. One
>>>> tool punches out the old rivet, and the second one supplies
>>> the pressure
>>>> to set the section securely in place against the bar, then
>>> puts pressure
>>>> on the rivet to enlarge it, and finally round the end to
>>> produce an even
>>>> surface that won't catch on anything. As they say in the ads:
>>> "try it,
>>>> you'll like it".
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I mostly just change sections with the sickle still in the
>>> mower. I
>>>>> have an old king-pin that I ground flats on the sides at one
>>> end so it
>>>>> fits up between the guards. It sits on a heavy oak block with the
>>>>> ground flat end up with the weight of the mower bar sitting
>>> on it. It
>>>>> has a shallow dimple in that end that centers on the rivet
>>> head and
>>>>> holds it solidly up in the bar. I give the rivet a solid
>>> whack with a
>>>>> hammer while being sure that the section stays down flat.
>>> That whack
>>>>> swells the body of the rivet which tightens it solidly
>>> in the holes
>>>>> of both parts. After I have both rivets done like that I then
>>> flip the
>>>>> hammer over and peen it down some then I use a regular rivet
>>> set to
>>>>> finish the head of the rivet.
>>>>> -
>>>>> Removal of the old section if it is still attached is as
>>> simple as
>>>>> popping the rivet heads off with a sharp cold chisel and
>>> tapping the
>>>>> old rivets out with a small drift punch.
>>>>> -
>>>>> I can change a section and be mowing again in the time it usually
>>>>> requires to pull the sickle out of the mower.
>>>>> -
>>>>> BTW, I do not consider it sufficient to just form a head on the
>>>>> rivets. Unless you swell the shank of the rivet in the holes
>>> so that
>>>>> there can be no movement at all the section can loosen with use.
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