[Farmall] Hydraulic Questions

[John Wilkens]

Mike,  enjoyed your equip. photos!    John W..



At 02:12 PM 11/24/2009, you wrote:
>I was faced by something similar when I installed a three point hitch on
>   my Super M. I tried to used the "belly pump" but encountered all kinds
>of problems. In the end, I installed a "live" pump, driven from the
>timing gear, a valve from a JD combine, and a reservoir & filter from
>Northern. It all worked out well, but it cost me almost as much for the
>hitch and hydraulics as the tractor did. The belly pump reservoir only
>holds a couple of quarts of fluid, so you might not have enough in it to
>handle two single action loader cylinders. If you have double acting
>cylinders, you might have enough capacity.
>
>Images can be seen at
><http://public.fotki.com/mikesloane/other_machinery/superm_pump2.html>
>and the next three images after that. The Super M is mostly similar
>enough to the H for illustrative purposes.
>
>Mike
>
>szabelsk at gdls.com wrote:
> > I just picked up a McCormick 30 loader for my H. I plan to put it on this
> > weekend to move a couple of truckloads of dirt in the front yard, and have
> > the H ready for snow removal. I'll going to attach it to the belly pump
> > for now, but plan on installing a live pump that I managed to acquire
> > recently. I figure I'll do the live pump in the spring when I have a
> > little more time and don't have to rush things.
> >
> > I know that a few of you have already installed live pumps so I have a few
> > questions regarding the reservoir. Can the existing belly pump reservoir
> > be used with a live pump and would it have sufficient volume? Or should I
> > plan on building a new reservoir and mounting it somewhere, like under the
> > seat? Also I'll probably need a control valve of some sort since I'll be
> > pulling the pump out of the reservoir and won't have a controllable valve.
> >
> > Also, I've run across two different Farmall hydraulic valves recently.
> > One, I believe, is a 1/200 remote control valve, and other I believe is a
> > 1/196 selective lift control valve. From what I can figure, the 1/200 is
> > used with the belly pump to control a single separate hydraulic cylinder
> > that isn't already being controlled by direct connection to the belly pump
> > (like a rear hitch cylinder). The 1/196 selective valve would be used to
> > control three separate hydraulic cylinders(?), and provides up and down
> > control.
> >
> > Since I can't find any data on how these valves are meant to be used
> > (other than a few pictures of the 1/200 valve installed on parts tractor),
> > I have a few questions regarding their use:
> >
> > Would either work with the live pump, or are these both designed for use
> > only with the belly pump only?
> >
> > How does the 1/196 mount to the tractor? I'm guessing the valve body on
> > the belly pump housing, and the control somewhere near the seat, maybe on
> > the fender?
> >
> > Haven't had the H long enough to gather up all the manuals I'll need. A
> > friend is giving me all the manuals for an H he sold last year, as soon as
> > he remembers what he did with them. .Also don't know what manuals I'll be
> > getting (says he has manuals for everything under the sun regarding the
> > H). So in the meantime, I'm trying to figure things out by internet
> > searches and asking knowledgeable people. I want to have everything I need
> > for use with the live pump on hand when I start to put it in.
> >
> > Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Carl Szabelski
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