[AT] Tractor talk, Baling hay

[John Hall]

I remember one year in particular that the wheat crop was bad and the straw 
was worse. To fulfill contracts, my uncle was buying straw from another 
farmer that had a "bale buggy" as we called it. He would run loads of it 
over to our big shed and stack it off outside where the guys would then 
convey it inside. He may have been able to offload some under the shed as 
well. For whatever reason bale buggies started disappearing here by the mid 
90's.  I think the only reason we didn't have one was our farms were too far 
spread out for one machine to do the job, we used 4-5 hay wagons instead. 
Some farms were so far away to make hauling feasible we would make big packs 
outdoors and wrap them up with plastic. All of these were normally gone by 
the fall of the year.

John Hall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor talk, Baling hay


>I hooked up the New Holland 1033 stackliner today and tried to pick up
> some bales.  We tried to dump off a short stack of 60, but the bales did
> not slip down the bed while the bed was tipping, so they fell off and
> bent the moveable rack.  I spent about 2 hours welding it back up. Then
> I went back to the fiield.  The biggest problem is some bales are light
> and others are heavy.  The bales are also not really consistent in
> length.  This causes some problems with stacking when it catches a long
> bale.  However, in 2 hours in the dark I picked up 105 bales, and only
> had to get out of the cab 2o times or so.  The bale chute is not right,
> you have to be within 4 inches of center to pick up a bale...
>
> Cec il in OKla
>
> John Hall wrote:
>> I can't remember what model the baler was but it was bought in 1979 ,I
>> believe. We used standard NH shear pins--and a bunch of them at that! 
>> After
>> about 5 years they found some pieces inside that were left out at the
>> factory. The mechanic put them in and it would feed a lot better. The 
>> most
>> you could put out was 7 bales a minute. In a decent size field, so you
>> weren't turning around too often, you could bale about 1,000 bales of 
>> straw
>> in 3 hours. We found it was easier to drop it on the ground than to tow 
>> the
>> wagon. Of course when you ran a crew of  7-8 loading , hauling and 
>> packing
>> in the barn, you had to be productive!
>>
>>  The 4020 dad has pulled that baler so much that the constant jerking on 
>> PTO
>> finally twisted the output shaft of the tractor in half. We saved it for 
>> a
>> conversation piece!
>>
>>  By contrast I have a New Holland Super 66. You can't get quite 2 bales a
>> minute. You definitely drive that one by listening to how loud that
>> Wisconsin barks. You know to back off if you hear the belts squeal. I 
>> don't
>> think we have ever sheared over 2-3 bolts. Probably baled a total of 
>> 5-6000
>> bales with it. They did a great job of matching HP to the size of the
>> baler--enough to run it but not enough to hurt it.
>>
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor talk, Baling hay
>>
>>
>>> My memories of the New Holland baler, a 270, was that you could not push
>>> it
>>> or the knots would hang on the bill hook and then break the twine. Or 
>>> else
>>> a
>>> shear pin would break at the flywheel. It got so you drove by the sound 
>>> of
>>> the engine. If the old Cockshutt sounded to be opening up the governor a
>>> little , then I knew I was  getting close to the limit.
>>> Your uncle must have had a mighty strong shear pin in that baler.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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