[AT] JD 214 WS timing problems

[Brad Gunnells]

I don't know how many revolutions the shaft makes but being 180 out  
sounds plausible.

If it's like my IH 46 the plunger should be near full compression  
when the needles engage and thread the twine. The stop is to prevent  
material from bending or breaking the needles so it goes to reason  
that if the plunger is still mid stroke the needles should be in the  
parked position (keeping the safety stop from the plunger).

Not much help but something to look for.

Brad

On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Lew Best wrote:

> Thanks Cecil
>
> I'll try that.  It really has me puzzled; It just looks so  
> straightforward
> but is way off.
>
> Lew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil  
> Bearden
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:47 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] JD 214 WS timing problems
>
> Lew:
> If you have the book, I cannot explain it any more.  However this  
> is how
> I have always timed a baler without any book.  I grew up with oliver
> balers and you had to move the drive chain on the sprockets...  The
> needles start moving toward the chamber when the plunger is on its
> return stroke just after top center of the crank.  If you follow the
> procedure from that, I think you will find your problem.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
> Lew Best wrote:
>> Hey guys
>>
>> I have a 214 WS that's out of time. When I started to bale; it  
>> broke a
> shear
>> bolt. I replaced it; turned by hand & the ram hit the safety stop.  
>> Upon
>> inspection I found the bolts that you use to set the timing gone;  
>> I know
>> that when I had to time it last year I wired the bolts; maybe I  
>> used too
>> small wire; who knows. Anyway, one bolt had apparently come out & the
> other
>> broke off. I took it apart; got the broken piece out with an ez- 
>> out; now
>> I've tried timing it step by step by the book but each time when I  
>> put the
>> bolts back in & turn it through by hand the needles are about 6"  
>> or so
> into
>> the bale chamber & the ram hits the safety stop. Anyone have any  
>> ideas? I
>> have hay on the ground I really need to get baled!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>>
>> Please note new email addy
>>
>> lew at lewslittlefarm.com
>>
>>
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