[Ford-ferguson] Ferguson Live PTO

[cwi813 at mchsi.com]

My 1941 Ford-Ferguson 9N has the first factory-installed 3-point hitch made for a tractor (Ford) and the hitch was made by Ferguson. As I understand it the patent for it was held jointly by Ford and Ferguson. A short while later, Ford decided he'd just use Ferguson's 3-point hitch and wouldn't call the joint design anything but "Ford."  That made Ferguson mad, so he left the partnership.

My PTO (factory installed) can be turned on and off by a lever just to the left (and under) the driver's seat. When the lever is pushed all the way forward to the front of the tractor, the PTO is turned off. When the same lever is pushed toward the rear of the tractor, it is engaged. You can be stopped or moving and still choose what you want the PTO to do. I like that aspect.

The Service Manual I've talked about has exploded diagrams on all parts of the Ford tractor as well as the Ferguson 3-point hitch, if you want to see how it's done.

My comments may not have anything to do with what you're talking about, though. I have one tractor and it's my first, but I've got all pieces memorized - down to the part number. :O) I'm not an expert on any of yours.  -  Cynthia
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> From: " Jim Peck @Yahoo " 
> Subject: [Ford-ferguson] Ferguson live PTO 
> 
> This link has a picture of a TO30 with a Hupp auxiliary. You can see the lever 
> below the gearshift lever. What we do not know is if it is a Hi/Lo or Live PTO. 
> http://www.oldfergusontractors.com/photogallery/Salem%202002/BarbBaylis52TO30Hup 
> p.JPG 
> 
> [Bob W]Try this link 
> 
> [Jim Peck]I personally am interested in the information. It looks like to me 
> that Cockshutt beat Ferguson and Ford to the punch on live PTO in 1946. Maybe we 
> should try to advertise for one and see what turns up? I was born in 48 and 
> wasn't paying attention to tractors until around 52 or so. If it turns out that 
> you could have, or still can, put a live PTO on a TO20/30 I would not feel so 
> badly. 
> 
> [Owen]Did the live PTO actually work? If so are there any still available from 
> some source? I have a TO20/TO30 mix and one of the few drawbacks is the PTO. 
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> [Jim Peck]  This link has a picture of a TO30 with Live PTO. From what little I see, it was 
> not a simple add on. It is looking to me like adding Live PTO to a TO20/TO30 
> could be pretty complex. No word yet on any retrofit kit. 
> 
> http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ferg&th=71931 
> 
> [Owen]Did the live PTO actually work? If so are there any still available from 
> some source? I have a TO20/TO30 mix and one of the few drawbacks is the PTO. 
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> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 10:57:26 -0400 
> From: " Jim Peck @Yahoo " 
> Subject: [Ford-ferguson] Ferguson Live PTO 
> In this post to the MasseyFerguson email group, a retired 
> Ferguson/Massey-Harris/Massey Ferguson dealer confirms that both Sherman and 
> Hupp overdrives were available for Ferguson tractors. He never sold a Live PTO 
> option. 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MasseyFerguson/message/314 
> 
> This still leaves the question of whether Live PTO was available as a factory 
> installed option on the TO series or was strictly aftermarket. This might be 
> something a small manufacturer might want to add. 
> 
> If anyone needs assistance accessing the link, please email me off list.