[AT] OT--taped audio to CD audio??

John Wilkens jwilkens at eoni.com
Mon Mar 30 11:54:33 PDT 2009 

Thanks Bob.   John


jAt 05:58 AM 03/30/2009, you wrote:
>John -
>
>Third-part data storage is simply a service that will securely store your
>images & data for a slight fee. Their storage technology is such that the
>problem of digital deterioration is almost nil. Some ISPs offer this service
>or you can Google "third party data storage" for a complete list of services
>and then choose the one that seems the best for your needs.
>
>A word of caution ... it's a good idea to save/convert digital images in
>TIFF format prior to sending to the storage service to assure the highest
>quality imagery should you retrieve them for your home/business use at some
>point.
>
>Bob in CNY
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Wilkens" <jwilkens at eoni.com>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] OT--taped audio to CD audio??
>
>
> > Bob, what is a "third-part service"?      John
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:31 PM 03/29/2009, you wrote:
> >>Guys -
> >>
> >>I have to agree with Larry on this one. As a digital editor and webmaster,
> >>longevity of storage is critical for archiving. DVDs hold more data than
> >>CDs, but the quality deterioration period is usually limited to maximums
> >>of
> >>3 (CDs)-5 (DVDs) years. So if you want to assure safe storage of valuable
> >>images such as your tractors, family, etc. you'd better plan on reburning
> >>a
> >>new disk before the old ones start fading. Blu-ray may hold more, but they
> >>too are vulnerable. For most of us, cost (i.e. low cost) of CDs & DVDs is
> >>the primary reason we use them. I store mine on a third-part service so I
> >>can download & burn fresh disks when needed.
> >>
> >>Bob in CNY
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
> >>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:28 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [AT] OT--taped audio to CD audio??
> >>
> >>
> >> > BTW folks, just as a philosophical concept that all of us are going to
> >> > find ourselves working with, we all need to become adept at media
> >> > migration to convert analog to digital for everything under the sun.
> >> > Audio is just one of those conversions.  Video (both electronic and
> >> > film)
> >> > and still images for either photos or documents are two others.  It's
> >> > the
> >> > "only" way we have of preserving the history we are involved with
> >> > regardless of whether it pertains to tractors, literature, photos,
> >> > events,
> >> > or what have you.  Converting from analog of any medium is just one of
> >> > the
> >> > steps.  Because of the nature of changing technology, conversion from
> >> > one
> >> > digital medium to another is going to be with us forever.
> >> >
> >> > CD's are already passe as an acceptable medium for preserving these
> >> > materials.  DVD formats are rapidly pushing all other CD formats aside.
> >> > PDF as a specialized format for digital preservation of documents shows
> >> > promise that it may be around for a while.
> >> >
> >> > You can point a finger of blame about how poor some of the fidelity is
> >> > on
> >> > some of the conversions, but you can't add meaningful fidelity to
> >> > materials that are already in "resolutions" that are pitifully low in
> >> > the
> >> > first place.  So when you need to preserve your old home movies or your
> >> > faded color snapshots, it becomes a bit nitpicking to criticize the
> >> > fidelity in the commercial Windows products.  For many media
> >> > conversions,
> >> > there are optimal resolutions or fidelities that are actually much
> >> > lower
> >> > than what is physically possible.  Those lower resolutions work very
> >> > well
> >> > for archival work.
> >> >
> >> > For PDF files of printed or typed documents, the optimal resolution is
> >> > "around 400 dpi".  Adobe recommends that resolution in their Acrobat
> >> > products because the optical character recognition engine works with
> >> > the
> >> > predefined lettering fonts of the software better at that resolution
> >> > than
> >> > at higher or lower scanning densities.
> >> >
> >> > Enough already!!  I have to quit before this email turns into Digital
> >> > Archiving 101.
> >> >
> >> > Larry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 29, 2009 7:54
> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT--taped audio to CD audio??
> >> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >
> >> >> While Larry is correct, you will probably not be all that happy
> >> >> with the
> >> >> results - the sound quality of most PC sound cards is not good.
> >> >> You
> >> >> would be better off with one of the many inexpensive third party
> >> >> devices
> >> >> that go from the analog player to the USB port, bypassing the
> >> >> sound
> >> >> card. They usually come with software packages that permit you
> >> >> to
> >> >> control the recording, edit, remove clicks/pops, etc. (Audacity
> >> >> by
> >> >> SoundForge is one of the better examples of the free software.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Take a look at <http://www.altoedge.com/usbaudio/> for an example.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry Goss wrote:
> >> >> > Microsoft has/had a software package available to do
> >> >> that.  It wass
> >> >> > the main package in one of the add-on's for Windows XP.
> >> >> It's built
> >> >> > in to Vista.  All you need is a patch cord from the
> >> >> output of your
> >> >> > source device (tape recorder, record player, stereo, etc) to the
> >> >> > input jack of the sound board on your computer.  There
> >> >> are also third
> >> >> > party products (Nero, Roxio, etc) that do the same thing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Larry
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: John Wilkens
> >> >> <jwilkens at eoni.com>
> >> >> > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:14 Subject: [AT] OT--taped
> >> >> audio to CD
> >> >> > audio?? To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Any computer/recording ATIS "experts" out there that can tell
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> how to copy audio from a tape to CD disc?...or if it even can
> >> >> be
> >> >> >> done?    John W.
> >> >> >>
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