[AT] Good tractor day

Wed Mar 4 07:39:23 PST 2009

You guys just KILL me.  Go here and see for yourself, and then tell me that an overall warming trend isn't happening.  If you've got the guts to say that after seeing the pictures, I'll certainly make note to not really believe anything you say anymore.

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/glaciers.html

No one is going to be able to determine whether the current warming cycle is a natural cyclic phenomenon or say it is due to human influence or not.  But how can you dispute what you see in the photographs?  You gonna claim this is some conspiracy and the photos are retouched?

I also don't care what your local weather is for this year.  Localized phenomenon for one or even a few years in a row doesn't matter one bit.

Rick 

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From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charliehill
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:19 PM
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Rob, I'm not trying to be hard to get along with but how can you prove 
Global Warming is a fact when in your very next sentence you say that "the 
earths climate has fluctuated for millions of years and will continue 
whether we're here or not."

I think we agree about the impact or lack there of caused by humans but I 
can't go along with saying something is a fact when no one can prove it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Wilson" <ro.wilson at att.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:03 PM
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> Global warming is a fact or climate change but to have proof humans are 
> the
> culprit is not provable. The earths climate has fluctuated for millions of
> years and will continue whether we're here or not. No proof we are 
> hastening
> it either.
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Rick Weaver
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
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> Aw, guys, all you have to do is look at the photos from decades ago and
> compare to today, of glaciers, to know that global warming is a fact.
>
> However, what I think is quite open for debate is the cause.  The liberals
> blame it on people.  I'm not so sure.
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Bob McNitt
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:30 PM
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> Cecil -
>
> I'm no fan of the "global warming" or climate change" fanatics' claims, 
> but
> it would see "something" is going on with the weather of late. There seems
> to be too many extremes, not just in North America, but all over the 
> planet.
>
> Let's hope it's just a temporary phenomenon and not a long-term trend. If 
> it
> turns out to be the latter, it will have a major impact on many things, 
> not
> the least of which will be agriculture.
>
> Bob in CNY
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> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:59 PM
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>
>> Here in Oklahoma we would take any type of moisture.  right now it is
>> sunny with 35 degrees the North wind is at 23mph gusting to 38.  Wind
>> chill is 23deg.  32% humidity.  I have lived here for 55 years and I
>> have never seen wind like we have had in the last 3 years.   The last
>> rain we had was about 1/2 inch last month.  Before that it  was in
>> September..
>>
>> Cecil in OKla.
>>
>> charliehill wrote:
>>> Well we've actually had 3 "snow events".  None of them amounted to much
>>> at
>>> my place.  The one that did give us close to an inch was melted and gone
>>> by
>>> dark that night.  I was over on I-40 a couple of days later between
>>> Kennansville and Raleigh and there was snow laying in the shadows along
>>> the
>>> hedge rows in lots of places.
>>>
>>> Charlie
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>>>
>>>> It has been a strange weather year.  The snow event you had gave us the
>>>> piddling amount.  The forecast for Sunday night now says snow with no
>>>> accumulation - which usually means we'll have an ice storm then a big
>>>> snow <g>.
>>>> In that event Raleigh was pretty well covered and I did see evidence of
>>>> snow around Burlington the next day.  Here it was all gone by mid day 
>>>> of
>>>> the same day.
>>>> I like one good snow each winter - nice treat and helps replenish the
>>>> soil moisture but after one I'm done I hope.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> NW NC
>>>>
>>>> charliehill wrote:
>>>>> No kidding David, less than half an inch of snow?  We've had more than
>>>>> that
>>>>> here.  In fact 45 miles up the road in Greenville and Washington area
>>>>> they
>>>>> had about 3 inches in one event.  The weather guys are saying we might
>>>>> get
>>>>> an inch or more on Monday.  I hope they are wrong.
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