[AJD] Bad tractor day - 1950 AR

Bruce & Bertie Mahr martian at winco.net
Tue Jun 9 00:12:55 PDT 2009


Tommy: Also check to see that the intake pipe doesn't have a restriction in 
it. My A did that a few years ago after sitting over night in a shed, mice 
had built a nest in the intake stack causing it to suck oil out of the 
crankcase because it couldn't get air through the intake stack. It had me 
scratching my head for a while cause it ran perfect the day before!

Bruce Mahr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
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Subject: Re: [AJD] Bad tractor day - 1950 AR


> Sounds like the crankcase filled with fuel, diluting and "building" the 
> oil.
> Double check the carb
>
> Greg
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> Greg Stephen
> The Old Tractor Company
> Stephen Equipment Company
> PO Box 709
> Franktown, CO 80116
> 303-663-5246
> 1-866-381-8703 FAX everything looked okay there.  The oil had a smell of 
> gas so I
>> changed it and put in fresh oil. Reinstalled the carb and did some
>> rough adjusting a few days ago. Then after supper today I went out
>> and started her up and adjusted some more. She seemed to be running
>> pretty good and the smoke had almost stopped, just a little blue
>> smoke coming out. After running for a few minutes and getting good
>> and warm I decided to run her down the street. Put her in 5th gear
>> and started down the driveway. Talk about blowing smoke!! Also lost a
>> lot of power. She was still running well but there was no worry about
>> mosquitoes in the neighborhood! Backed back up the drive and stopped.
>> Oil was actually running out of the exhaust pipe connection from the
>> manifold. There was also oil coming out of the exhaust pipe
>> connection up under the hood which was being blown back by the fan
>> all over the front of the engine. What a mess! I guess the best
>> problem would be a broken ring but I'm not sure that that much oil
>> could come from just bypassing the rings. Hopefully the block isn't
>> cracked. Looks like another engine teardown is in my future! I really
>> wanted to get this ol' girl cleaned up to go to some shows this
>> summer. Bummer......
>>
>> At 10:21 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:
>> >Tommie,
>> >
>> >Charlie's advice is appropriate.  Need to get rid
>> of those possible problems>first.
>> >
>> >Here is how I analyze the color of exhaust
>> smoke:>
>> >White = Condensation or water
>> >Blue = Excess oil
>> >Black = Excess gasoline
>> >
>> >Try getting the tractor warmed up with clean
>> fuel. Getting the tractor>warmed up and worked a bit may cause all the
>> other problems to go away. The>carburetor butterflies may be sticking too 
>> and
>> may not just be a Governor>problem.
>> >
>> >Dean Van Peursem
>> >Snohomish, WA 98290
>> >
>> >The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop
>> digging>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> On Behalf Of>CEE VILL
>> >Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:56 PM
>> >To: John Deere
>> >Subject: Re: [AJD] 1950 AR Governor
>> >
>> >
>> >Tommy,
>> >
>> >Whiteish blue smoke is not typically
>> "flooding up with gasoline" smoke. It>could come from a couple of other 
>> problems.
>> Before worrying about those, I>suggest you drain the gas tank and carb 
>> and try
>> some fresh fuel.  It sounds>like oil is mixed with your fuel.??
>> >
>> >Hope this helps.
>> >
>> >Charlie V.
>> >
>> > > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:42:09
>> -0400> > To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com> > From: t17wils
>> on at comcast.net> > Subject: [AJD] 1950 AR Governor
>> > >
>> > > Hey Guys, if you remember, a couple years
>> ago I restored an AR that> > had been sitting for over 30 years. I don't
>> get a lot of time these> > days to play with my tractors and it seems
>> like the governor has> > locked up on it. It will kick in just a
>> little bit, but not very> > much. I think this is why it has very slow
>> throttle response. Any> > suggestions on the best/easiest way to fix?
>> It also seems to be> > flooding up after running for a while.
>> After idling, when I throw the> > gas to it she blows out quite a bit of
>> whiteish/blue smoke. Guess I> > need someone better than me to adjust on
>> the carb!> >
>> > > Tommy Wilson
>> > > Warrenton, VA
>> > > 1948 IH Cub
>> > > 1950 IH H
>> > > 1950 JD AR
>> > > 1951 JD B
>> > > 1951 Ford 8N
>> > > 1952 IH SC
>> > >
>> > >
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>> Tommy Wilson
>> Warrenton, VA
>> 1948 IH Cub
>> 1950 IH H
>> 1950 JD AR
>> 1951 Ford 8N
>> 1951 JD B
>> 1952 IH SC
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