[AJD] Starting Trouble 51-B

[Paul Sawyer]

When I finally got it going after the plug swap, there was briefly black and
then clear.  Before I swapped the plugs, it was white.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM, CEE VILL <cvee60 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Paul,
>
> When it is running and missing, what does the exhaust look like?  Black
> smoke, clear with no smoke, or ??
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:04:50 -0500
> > From: mustangpaul at gmail.com
> > To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Starting Trouble 51-B
> >
> > Hi all--
> >
> > Here's the update.  New Autolites got it to run, but she's missing and
> > eventually dies on her own.  The old plugs were wet.  I did manage to get
> > her to creep up a bit so I can get my mower out.  Small victory, but a
> > victory still.
> >
> > I, too, thought of the points next.  That would account for the
> inadvertent
> > firing and eventual dying.
> >
> > As for opinions and backsides, since I'm new to the JD world, I'll take
> any
> > and all opinions I can get!  8)
> >
> > -P
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:59 PM, CEE VILL <cvee60 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You know the old saying: Opinions are like back sides.  Everybody has
> one.
> > >  Having said that, I will offer a suggestion  or two.
> > >
> > > If the plugs were not obviously wet when removed, you may not be
> pulling
> > > gas into the cylinders. If this is the situation, you may want to try
> > > starting with the throttle as far to idle as it will go and the choke
> at
> > > full choke.  This will bring more raw fuel into cylinders with minimal
> air
> > > mix.  If that fails, check the plugs again and see if they are visibly
> wet.
> > >  If not, it is not flooded.  If they are wet, dry them off, let it
> stand for
> > > an hour, then replace the plugs.  Try to start again with no choke and
> full
> > > throttle setting.
> > >
> > > You probably do not have a fuel tank selection valve on a 51 model.  If
> you
> > > do, make sure it is on fuel and not on reserve.
> > >
> > > If none of the above does the trick, you will need to check out several
> > > other possibilities not mentioned here.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:50:14 -0500
> > > > From: mustangpaul at gmail.com
> > > > To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > > Subject: [AJD] Starting Trouble 51-B
> > > >
> > > > Hi all--
> > > >
> > > > Got my tractor the other day.  It started up, chugged off the trailer
> and
> > > > happily all over the yard.  Stopped and started it several times with
> no
> > > > trouble.  I put it up and now she won't start.  Catches
> > > > occasionally-CHUG-but that's it.  Eventually, she blows a bit of
> white
> > > smoke
> > > > which tells me, I think, she's flooded out.
> > > >
> > > > I recharged the battery.  (It was converted to 12 volt and the
> battery is
> > > > about a year old--Interstate.)
> > > > I'm heading out now to get new plugs.  The old ones are pretty
> > > oily/black.
> > > > I've got lights so I'm getting power.
> > > > Fuel switch is on and I have good, new gas.
> > > > Throttle is between 1/3 and 1/2.
> > > > Choke or no choke doesn't seem to make a difference.
> > > >
> > > > The tractor was restored about 8 years ago, but sat most of the time
> > > since
> > > > then.  Always started--it's just me she's being difficult to.
> > > >
> > > > I'm told that there is no dumb question--only dumb people who ask
> them,
> > > so I
> > > > declare myself dumb!
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?  I've got a line of neighborhood kids who want rides!  8)
> > > >
> > > > --P
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