[AT] Southern Farm show for Al Jones

[charliehill]

Thanks Al,  I might try to go myself.  I want to look around at some 
equipment and look for ideas on how to make some money in this tight 
economy.   I doubt I see any thing that won't cost more to buy than it will 
posibly make back for me but I've got to keep looking.  Times are tough. 
Not a good time to be self-employed.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Southern Farm show for Al Jones


>
> http://www.southernshows.com/sfs/
>
> Feb. 4-6.  Some of us will be going, if not me my co-worker.  We had a boy
> place high enough locally to compete in the state FFA truck/tractor 
> driving
> contest on the 5th.
>
> Al
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 1/21/2009 6:30:33 PM
>> Subject: [AT] Southern Farm show for Al Jones
>>
>> Al, when is the Southern Farm show in Raleigh?  Are you going?
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge
>>
>>
>> > ..And why on EARTH would anybody want one?????
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: <william.neff.powell at comcast.net>
>> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Date: 1/21/2009 1:41:06 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge
>> >>
>> >> What model is the updated version of the Ford 8n?
>> >>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> >> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
>> >> > To tie this back to tractors, Fiat Group also owns the company that
>> >> > makes Case IH and New Holland and what remains of Allis. While they
>> >> > might not have done a lot for Allis, they have kept a LOT of New
>> > Holland
>> >> >   and Case IH dealers in business (who keep us supplied with various
>> >> > bits and pieces for our antique tractors and equipment). Having
> worked
>> >> > for a New Holland dealer, I can attest to the real interest they 
>> >> > have
>> > in
>> >> > building the US market. They even have released an updated version 
>> >> > of
>> >> > the old Ford 8N! (Well, it look like an 8N, even if it is a modern
> 4WD
>> >> > compact diesel underneath.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> >> > > This ought to be interesting, Charlie...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > First of all, the deal apparently isn't complete yet.  According
> to
>> >> > > an
>> >> > > article in WSJ:  "The non-binding deal would involve no cash
> payment
>> >> > > by Fiat, and the proposed April closing is contingent on Chrysler
>> >> > > meeting U.S. government conditions for existing and hoped-for
> federal
>> >> > > aid."
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What effect will it have on Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep?  Well, this
> is
>> >> > > being painted as a barter deal.  Chrysler gets access to Fiat's
> small
>> >> > > cars, and Fiat gets access to Chrysler's US distribution network.
>> >> > > The
>> >> > > hoped-for effect is that there will still BE a Dodge, Chrysler, 
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > Jeep.  With rose-colored glasses firmly in place, expect to see 
>> >> > > new
>> >> > > (and pretty good) small cars at your local ChryCo dealership. 
>> >> > > Fiat
>> >> > > has come a long way since they departed US shores in disgrace many
>> >> > > years ago.  I don't personally see how this will impact what we
> know
>> >> > > as Dodge trucks or Jeeps, again, other than keeping them around.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Lots of problems.  Euro emissions and crash standards are about as
>> >> > > stringent as ours in round numbers but they are DIFFERENT.
> There's a
>> >> > > bunch of engineering that needs to happen to get Fiat-based cars
> onto
>> >> > > US shores.  Timing... couple years perhaps.  What's going to keep
>> >> > > Chrysler afloat in the meantime?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Steve O.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, charliehill
>> >> > > <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> I heard yesterday that Fiat is taking controlling interest in
> Dodge
>> > in a
>> >> > >> deal where they get 35% of the company stock in exchange for ZERO
>> > cash.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I wonder what effect that will have on Dodge, Crysler and Jeep as
> we
>> > know
>> >> > >> them?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Charlie
>> >> > >>
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