[AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge

[charliehill]

Mike you are off just a bit.  Fiat did make some tractors for Fiat in the 
late 70's, early 80's but they, to the best of my knowledge, don't have any 
relationship with AGCO who owns what is left of A-C tractor division.  AGCO 
is now the largest tractor manufacturer on the planet with most of it's 
business being outside of the US.  They own Massey Ferguson, Fendt and some 
others as well as their own production line.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Ford V-10/Now Dodge


> To tie this back to tractors, Fiat Group also owns the company that
> makes Case IH and New Holland and what remains of Allis. While they
> might not have done a lot for Allis, they have kept a LOT of New Holland
>  and Case IH dealers in business (who keep us supplied with various
> bits and pieces for our antique tractors and equipment). Having worked
> for a New Holland dealer, I can attest to the real interest they have in
> building the US market. They even have released an updated version of
> the old Ford 8N! (Well, it look like an 8N, even if it is a modern 4WD
> compact diesel underneath.)
>
> Mike
>
> Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> This ought to be interesting, Charlie...
>>
>> First of all, the deal apparently isn't complete yet.  According to an
>> article in WSJ:  "The non-binding deal would involve no cash payment
>> by Fiat, and the proposed April closing is contingent on Chrysler
>> meeting U.S. government conditions for existing and hoped-for federal
>> aid."
>>
>> What effect will it have on Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep?  Well, this is
>> being painted as a barter deal.  Chrysler gets access to Fiat's small
>> cars, and Fiat gets access to Chrysler's US distribution network.  The
>> hoped-for effect is that there will still BE a Dodge, Chrysler, and
>> Jeep.  With rose-colored glasses firmly in place, expect to see new
>> (and pretty good) small cars at your local ChryCo dealership.  Fiat
>> has come a long way since they departed US shores in disgrace many
>> years ago.  I don't personally see how this will impact what we know
>> as Dodge trucks or Jeeps, again, other than keeping them around.
>>
>> Lots of problems.  Euro emissions and crash standards are about as
>> stringent as ours in round numbers but they are DIFFERENT.  There's a
>> bunch of engineering that needs to happen to get Fiat-based cars onto
>> US shores.  Timing... couple years perhaps.  What's going to keep
>> Chrysler afloat in the meantime?
>>
>> Steve O.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, charliehill
>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> I heard yesterday that Fiat is taking controlling interest in Dodge in a
>>> deal where they get 35% of the company stock in exchange for ZERO cash.
>>>
>>> I wonder what effect that will have on Dodge, Crysler and Jeep as we 
>>> know
>>> them?
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
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