[AT] Polar Ice Caps

Mattias Kessén davidbrown950 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 14 07:26:43 PST 2009


Charlie, I just checked and in the Atlantic outside Norway it's about
45-50F in the water right now. You also have to consider that the most
usual wind here is from the southwest.

Mattias

2009/1/14 charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>:
> Mattias it's interesting that you mentioned the gulf stream.  It passes
> really close to the coast here in NC.  It is something that everyone should
> experience.  It's 29 F here right now.  If I could borrow my friends boat I
> could drive the 40 minutes to the beach get in his boat and be in the gulf
> stream in another hour.  By then it might be up to 40 F here if that much.
> I'm willing to bet you that it would be 60 or 65 out in the gulfstream and
> just like a warm spring day.  I've been out there fishing in the winter when
> it was cold, cloudy and dreary on land and hated to come back in, back to
> the winter.  I'm sure the stream isn't that warm up at your latitude Mattias
> but I bet even there it makes a big difference.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mattias Kessén" <davidbrown950 at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>
>
> When I went to school they said the next iceage is coming. Of course
> as you all know this is true, it will happen this things goes in
> cycles and further more we're moving towards the northern pole at the
> stunning speed of 1cm/year. BTW don't buy any summerhouses at the
> Mediterranian(s) shore, Africa is moving by the speed of 2cm/year. So
> the Mediterranian is doomed! I don't believe it will happen the couple
> of decades so no need to worry.
>
> But then we have the global warming (though it felt very distant a
> week ago or so when the dieslline from the tank froze on my DB950 at
> -15C, another #¤%# story). If that would cause the Northern pole and a
> lot of glaciers to melt some people think that could cause the
> Gulfstream to stop then we would get a climate more like Ralph.
> Doesn't sound all that cosy but iceage? No.
>
> Another problem that might really be a problem in Germany and Poland
> is that the oceans would raise. Here that wouldn't cause that much
> problemsa problems because the ground is raising with a speed at
> 0-9mm/year since the last iceage. Least in the south as Skåne so they
> will have more problems but they should be careful with building to
> close to the water anyway due to their erosionproblems.
>
> I also saw on TV a few weeks ago that Dutch are abandonning some of
> their land leaving it back to the water. This because they don't think
> that they can't keep up with higher flows forever.
>
> Mattias
> 2009/1/14 Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>:
>> Not to worry Charlie. I have been here before and will likely survive a
>> few
>> more winters. We hit +20 on the weekend and it snowed so hard I could
>> hardly
>> see across the yard. Snow was melting on the hood of the Cockshutt 40 from
>> all the heat generated by the hard working Buda six running the hammer
>> mill
>> that day. That night I had to install the snowblower to clear a path for a
>> stuck car . The moon was so bright that I was working without lights and
>> it
>> was plenty warm even at 0 degrees.
>> Different story today though. -10F and a nasty southeaster blowing the
>> falling snow. Predictions for worse tomorrow with wind chill factor in
>> the -40F range.
>> Re: the heat light on engines, can't say that I have used it as most
>> engines
>> here come equipped with block (coolant) heaters. Just plug them in for a
>> few
>> hours and they start. I've known people that leave their vehicles plugged
>> in
>> 24 hours a day. Must make the power companies happy but if you need a
>> vehicle ready to go at short notice it is almost necessary.
>> What I need now is a block heater for my air compressor. The big Coleman 6
>> hp refused to start today in the unheated shed. I've got an old car
>> interior
>> warmer that I plan to plug in and see if I can persuade it to turn over
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>
>>
>>
>> We all know how that thar global warming works different from what people
>> might think, Charlie.  Part of the reason I was thinking the ice cap may
>> be
>> attacking our friend Ralph. It appears like the carbon credits worked much
>> faster than expected.
>>
>>> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:24:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>
>>> With all the talk about global warming, I heard yesterday on the radio
>>> that
>>> Russia and Germany are predicting and preparing for another ICE AGE.
>>> Germany is apparently predicting that some of their northern regions will
>>> be
>>> un-inhabitable within the next couple of decades.
>>>
>>> I don't know.  Just what I heard.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:55 PM
>>> Subject: [AT] Polar Ice Caps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can not help notice that Ralph is being pretty quiet of late and wonder
>>> if
>>> Lipton is currently under the polar ice cap.  It looks like a modest -23
>>> F
>>> for tonight but warming some by Thursday.  Are you keeping up with it
>>> Ralph?
>>>
>>> Charlie in WNY
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